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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!



    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Listen folks, it is time for some reality regarding KO (or Oher) to LT.
    I agree, it is easier to find a starting guard and they may go in that direction.

    In Oher's case I don't see the Giants game as representative of his body of work which points to him being a poor choice for LT. FS didn't grade his play at LT high for any game.

    KO wasn't projected to play LT in the NFL because he was thought to lack agility to handle speed rushers. But those reports aren't always correct and he may have improved his technique and skills enough during the last year to make him a viable option. He has the size to play the position and did so in college, so perhaps the reports are correct.




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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    In Oher's case I don't see the Giants game as representative of his body of work which points to him being a poor choice for LT. FS didn't grade his play at LT high for any game.
    That's not what I'm saying. Kyle Boller strung together some good games too and a big reason for that was because of the game plan.

    Oher is not a good LT and really, he's not a very good RT either. He's average. And that's ok as long as the game plan takes into account the average play at OT. Also, it makes a big difference when Flacco has a clean pocket to step up into. This is, IMO as well as others, one of the biggest reasons for the post-season success. Once they moved KO to guard, Flacco had a lot of nice pockets to step up into and get the ball out quicker.

    Again, when I watch games from last year I think you can clearly distinguish the variance in game plan between Cam and Caldwell and how they impacted everyone else on the field.
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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Again, when I watch games from last year I think you can clearly distinguish the variance in game plan between Cam and Caldwell and how they impacted everyone else on the field.
    No argument on that point. That's definitely something to get excited about this year. Caldwell was thrown into the position with little time to incorporate his ideas. Given the entire offseason and training camp will allow him to put his stamp on the offense. With last season as an indicator our offense will improve and Caldwell should get another shot as a head coach.




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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by conviction View Post
    Bcraven has been calling KO to LT since he was drafted.
    Thank you, conviction! That I have, although some have implied that I'm a blithering idiot.
    KO looks like a very strong LG, but that's a much easier position to fill than LT. Again, thanks for remembering... Bc




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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    We have 12 picks, the most in the league. How many of those will make our roster? We have at the most 6 roster spots they can compete for as discussed in a previous thread. Armstead has been mentioned and in no way is he a day 1 starter. Without a move to get a quality LT we are left with the usual suspects; Oher, KO or resign McKinney. Any of those choices carry strong doubts.

    I've yet to see anyone accurately predict Ozzie's moves unless I've missed someone making that claim. The safe chance at success is to dismiss anyone else's prediction because most of the speculation that takes place on this board never pans out. Ozzie doesn't show his hand or shows a pattern other than he tries to get the best value he can. I'm not saying he'll definitely trade up, but if he gets an opportunity to get the value he wants I'm sure he would. It's a game of chance and someone has to negotiate with him.
    While I agree that we won't select all 12 picks, and Ozzie will likely make a trade or three, I believe he's not comfortable with trading the following year's (2014) 1st round pick. Perhaps it was the Boller trade (?) If a player he covets falls into his area of comfort, then I can see him trading up (like with Oher), but not using next year's #1 as a bargaining chip... Bc




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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    although some have implied that I'm a blithering idiot.
    ... Bc
    lol j/k, but i do recall someone saying that he would be a LT when he was drafted just didn't recall who it was. Great Job man.




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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by conviction View Post
    I hear a lot from you guys about a study on arm length and other physical characteristics for LTs. Does KO fit the physical spectrum. I remember everything thought he was a just a "phone booth guard"
    yes, KO is a mountain of a man. I don't remember excactly what his arm lengthis, but it's well over 32"... His foot quickness is why many envisioned him in the phone booth.




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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    yes, KO is a mountain of a man. I don't remember excactly what his arm lengthis, but it's well over 32"... His foot quickness is why many envisioned him in the phone booth.
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...ele?id=2532922

    35 7/8"

    Holy cow. Note though, Mayock said he didn't see him existing on the outside of the line.
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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    just watched the video. What Oz said is that "John told Steve Biscotti that if the season started today, KO would be our left tackle".

    Makes sense given McKinnie is not on the roster. When asked about that Oz said 'it's a process'
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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    I think everyplayer on the roster has been linked to LT, just draft crap talk.




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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    My big takeaway here was simply that Oher isn't the defacto LT starter. I think it'll be addressed either in the draft or with Big Mac.
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    I'm with the camp that doesn't believe that Oher at LT is the end of the world (or our playoff odds) as we know it, but I would be stoked if we could bring in one more guy to upgrade our left or right tackle spots so KO can stay at guard. I think he and Yanda have to potential to be the best guard tandem in the league, and as Nawlins proved, great interior line play and a good game plan can mask sub par tackles. (Not that I feel Oher is sub par on the right, he was after all, part of that unbreakable playoff line everyone who wants Big Mac back keeps going on about.)
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    Just heard Harbs (on 105.7) moderate his "KO at left tackle" comments. After a neutral initial response, he then referred to KO as a "candidate" for the job.

    Strong offer out to The Whopper?
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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    They're not going to sign him before the draft, it makes more sense to play it out
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    Re: Ozzie says, if the season started today, KO WOULD BE THE LEFT TACKLE!

    I think some people have/are REALLY underestimating McKinnie's chances of returning to Baltimore this season. McKinnie really is our only option at LT if you want solid play IN 2013. Oher is below average at LT, we don't know how KO would handle it, and I'm pretty sure any rookie we'd get a shot at drafting would not be ready to start at LT either.




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