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    Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon



    A Saudi national about 29 is said to be a suspect in the bombing.




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    The Prez refused to use the word "terror" in the attack although his federal investigators have.

    Denise Koch just said no group has come foreward to claim responsibility.


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    Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon

    I am enraged. I hope the people who planned, authorized, carried out, or participated in this plot in any form or fashion are found swiftly and dispatched with extreme prejudice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    A Saudi national about 29 is said to be a suspect in the bombing.
    I read he's a person of interest and cooperating and denying involvement. (Assuming we're talking about the same guy. )
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    Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon

    Yea, "person of interest" was the first term I heard around 5 pm and later this evening I
    heard the word "suspect."

    Interesting.

    Binny was a Saudi too born in Riyahd so maybe from the same network or contacts thereof?

    I was visiting my mom in her assistance living apartment and she only has a 20" TV screen
    and I could hardly see the crowd in front of the explosion.

    When I got back to the condo to my 50 incher it was more clear and just horrific to look at.

    I'm no bomb expert but it looked like the explosion went straight up instead of up and out.
    It went out some but tons more would have been killed had it gone further out.

    Whatever, this isn't going to be a good time to be a Muslim in the US.
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    Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon

    The London Marathon is the coming weekend and security is being seriously upgraded, unsurprisingly. Reassuring for me as I have a couple of friends running it.

    The whole thing just stuns me, especially seeing as this was a largely charity event, with 100's of charities benefitting, for all different facets of life. Fortunately in the aftermath of such a tragedy, we often see the best of humanity. The emergency services and other bystanders rushing towards the carnage to help the wounded does give you a bit of hope that there's still some goodness in the human race.
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    Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Yea, "person of interest" was the first term I heard around 5 pm and later this evening I
    heard the word "suspect."

    Interesting.

    Binny was a Saudi too born in Riyahd so maybe from the same network or contacts thereof?

    I was visiting my mom in her assistance living apartment and she only has a 20" TV screen
    and I could hardly see the crowd in front of the explosion.

    When I got back to the condo to my 50 incher it was more clear and just horrific to look at.

    I'm no bomb expert but it looked like the explosion went straight up instead of up and out.
    It went out some but tons more would have been killed had it gone further out.

    Whatever, this isn't going to be a good time to be a Muslim in the US.
    As of this morning he is no longer a suspect. They did investigate an apartment in Revere but aren't saying why or who it's tied to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Whatever, this isn't going to be a good time to be a Muslim in the US.
    Even if a Muslim wasn't responsible. Just like OkC. Tim McVeigh was white as the driven snow, but lots of people saw "Arab-looking" people driving away after the attack.
    I've upped my standards. Up yours.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    I'm no bomb expert but it looked like the explosion went straight up instead of up and out.
    It went out some but tons more would have been killed had it gone further out.

    Whatever, this isn't going to be a good time to be a Muslim in the US.
    The phrase I heard used to describe the device was "crudely built".

    It's apparently human nature now to use people's own prejudices/leanings to determine who "likely" is behind the attack. Like I said earlier, I know someone on FB who kept posting (then deleting because people were railing on him) about how he was CERTAIN this was a right-wing group coming out on Tax Day to make a big statement, and how all the mid-April attacks always seem to be centered on these right wingers. It wouldn't shock you to learn he is the most left-leaning liberal I know, right? I didn't see it, but I heard several people on twitter mentioning some pretty terrible accusations being made in the wake of the attack, so I would guess there was some knee jerk reactions about possible suspects and lots of generalization going on.

    Just a shame really. We should've learned by now...the first reports you hear are usually not anywhere close to 100% accurate, you really need 5-7 days before the majority of the facts are known to the public. The authorities might know something, but not be willing to share it yet in hopes they can act on it before someone flees.
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    I dont understand why "Saudi National" has to be attached to a person of interest. Seems like a move to instill fear by association. Everything i heard said he was only a PoI and was cooperating. A PoI that early or even this early really shouldnt be assumed guilty of anything and i believe has been falsely reported as a suspect as opposed to PoI.

    Its entirely too early to jump to any conclusions. we have no idea if its foreign or domestic at this point. I think Moose brings up a great point. In this moment of fear, people will jump to conclusions and their own inner fears. since 9/11, like it or not, a lot of people assume terrorist acts are from the middle east first until theyre proven otherwise. Im sure the police could be guilty of the same with this PoI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    It's apparently human nature now to use people's own prejudices/leanings to determine who "likely" is behind the attack. Like I said earlier, I know someone on FB who kept posting (then deleting because people were railing on him) about how he was CERTAIN this was a right-wing group coming out on Tax Day to make a big statement, and how all the mid-April attacks always seem to be centered on these right wingers.
    in all honesty, its possible. I dont think theres anything to support it other than the fact that we know nothing, so anything is possible. with as much hatred as ive seen from both sides towards the other its not really far fetched. whether over guns, taxes, or any other political stance. one nut job alone or a group together its quite possible that somebody was driven over the edge to "make a stand". thinking its possible and claiming to be certain and "knowing" are two different things though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    So for anyone out there who does run these type of races...

    Would you encourage your family to attend the next one? Will this keep your from running anymore of them?

    I usually just run smaller races, but I loved my half marathon in D.C. and was planning to tackle both the Baltimore and Frederick ones next year. I'm still thinking I'd run it, but I'm not so sure I want my wife and kids to be there, knowing this kind of danger could well happen.

    Then again, someone determined enough might be able to sneak this into a Ravens or Orioles game, and I wouldn't stop going to those.
    The target is a crowd of people. Kind of hard to live your life, in today's world, if you are determined to avoid crowds.

    Ironically, the security measures that will no doubt be put into place at sporting events, while perhaps making the inside of the venues marginally safer (I think they were fairly safe already), will just lead to bigger crowds - and targets - outside the stadiums.

    Unfortunately, for most countries, there is no real answer for the terrorist, kook, what-have-you, that is bent on mass destruction.

    I would also add that the odds of someone actually being a victim of a terrorist attack are infinitesimally small. The perception (terror) of the risk far, far outweighs the reality. Unfortunately, it is too often that perception (not the reality) that then drives decision-making and policy-making in the wake of these attacks.
    Last edited by JohnBKistler; 04-16-2013 at 07:53 AM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    From Patton Oswalt:
    Boston. Fucking horrible.

    I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, "Well, I've had it with humanity."

    But I was wrong. I don't know what's going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.

    But here's what I DO know. If it's one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we're lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they're pointed towards darkness.

    But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We'd have eaten ourselves alive long ago.

    So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, "The good outnumber you, and we always will."
    I read this last night and I thought it was a terrific perspective. Thanks for posting.




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    Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by moose10101 View Post
    Even if a Muslim wasn't responsible. Just like OkC. Tim McVeigh was white as the driven snow, but lots of people saw "Arab-looking" people driving away after the attack.

    You're right but this isnt about race but extreme fanatical religion. McVeigh wasn't about religion but extreme right wing politics. Then you have the extreme left wingers
    like eco bombers protesting corporations digging up the earth and what not.

    9/11 and all the other related bombings around the world are extreme religion fanatics that make life miserable for innocent law biding citizens of the same faith. Extreme Baptists that demonstrate at funerals make normal and decent Baptists look bad etc.




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    Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon

    Not sure how to put this into words without coming across like a dick. But it seems kind of amateurish. I mean if this was an organised attack by any terrorist group, you'd have expected more death and bigger bombs. Seems to me like it was just a person that went on a rampage like the guy who took the gun into the school, except they used bombs.




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