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Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
I dont understand why "Saudi National" has to be attached to a person of interest. Seems like a move to instill fear by association. Everything i heard said he was only a PoI and was cooperating. A PoI that early or even this early really shouldnt be assumed guilty of anything and i believe has been falsely reported as a suspect as opposed to PoI.
Its entirely too early to jump to any conclusions. we have no idea if its foreign or domestic at this point. I think Moose brings up a great point. In this moment of fear, people will jump to conclusions and their own inner fears. since 9/11, like it or not, a lot of people assume terrorist acts are from the middle east first until theyre proven otherwise. Im sure the police could be guilty of the same with this PoI.-JAB
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Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
in all honesty, its possible. I dont think theres anything to support it other than the fact that we know nothing, so anything is possible. with as much hatred as ive seen from both sides towards the other its not really far fetched. whether over guns, taxes, or any other political stance. one nut job alone or a group together its quite possible that somebody was driven over the edge to "make a stand". thinking its possible and claiming to be certain and "knowing" are two different things though.
-JAB
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04-16-2013, 07:29 AM #87Veteran Poster
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Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
The target is a crowd of people. Kind of hard to live your life, in today's world, if you are determined to avoid crowds.
Ironically, the security measures that will no doubt be put into place at sporting events, while perhaps making the inside of the venues marginally safer (I think they were fairly safe already), will just lead to bigger crowds - and targets - outside the stadiums.
Unfortunately, for most countries, there is no real answer for the terrorist, kook, what-have-you, that is bent on mass destruction.
I would also add that the odds of someone actually being a victim of a terrorist attack are infinitesimally small. The perception (terror) of the risk far, far outweighs the reality. Unfortunately, it is too often that perception (not the reality) that then drives decision-making and policy-making in the wake of these attacks.Last edited by JohnBKistler; 04-16-2013 at 07:53 AM.
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04-16-2013, 07:48 AM #88Veteran Poster
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Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
You're right but this isnt about race but extreme fanatical religion. McVeigh wasn't about religion but extreme right wing politics. Then you have the extreme left wingers
like eco bombers protesting corporations digging up the earth and what not.
9/11 and all the other related bombings around the world are extreme religion fanatics that make life miserable for innocent law biding citizens of the same faith. Extreme Baptists that demonstrate at funerals make normal and decent Baptists look bad etc.
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04-16-2013, 08:44 AM #90
Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
Not sure how to put this into words without coming across like a dick. But it seems kind of amateurish. I mean if this was an organised attack by any terrorist group, you'd have expected more death and bigger bombs. Seems to me like it was just a person that went on a rampage like the guy who took the gun into the school, except they used bombs.
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Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
A lot of the experts are saying that. The bombs were crude. They had directed blasts that went up instead of toward the street meaning they weren't placed correctly. This could be some kid pissed that his girlfriend dumped him out to prove something. Unfortunately it's not that tough to build one of the these bombs.
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04-16-2013, 09:33 AM #92
Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
"This space for rent" - Roger Goodell
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04-16-2013, 09:36 AM #93
Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
"This space for rent" - Roger Goodell
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Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
guilty in the sense of public opinion. Soon as they say "suspect" people/media start going down that path. PoI can even mean a witness if im not mistaken, but suspect paints a completely different picture. I think the terms "suspect" and "PoI" were being used as if theyre the same, and they arent. Even if PoI isnt actually defined by more than the name itself.
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04-16-2013, 09:56 AM #95Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: OT - 2 explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
It's fanatics and extremists - whether political, religious, or just angry about whatever - who are the problem -- people who feel like the world isn't bending to their will fast enough; that their voice and opinion and debate isn't working as effectively as they want, and they want results now. So they decide that their concept of "morality" is SO important that it qualifies them for an exemption from decency and the rules and laws of society. Other people, whose views aren't as "important", have to obey the law, but not those exalted few who are SO right about everything that they are justified in random murder to advance (in their minds) their agendas.
As Robert Anton Wilson once wrote, "Death to all fanatics!"
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