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  1. #16

    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker



    I think they will take DeAndre Hopkins




  2. #17

    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    We just picked up a more talented Te'o by nabbing McClain in FA. They are very close to the same age, McClain is faster, a better blitzer, and plays the run very well. Drafting te'o we would almost have two of the same LB's with the exception of Te'o being slower. I would rather wait until round 3 to grab Jon Bostic or round 4 for Nico Johnson.

    As to the first two rounds I know it is an unpopular notion but I would rather grab 2 WR's with out first 2 picks. If we could trade back and get Deandre Hopkins and Da'Rick Rogers I would be ecstatic. We give Flacco the keys to the franchise and he has one familiar weapon at WR. Give him 3 good WR's and then leave the 4th to Streeter/ Thompson. I dont see Doss or Reed ever doing anything. Give him 3 young premier WR's with a 4th guy who can take over a game in the slot with Pitta over the middle and that is a ferocious 2 minute drill.

    There are some good late round safety prospects in the draft and there is one who is gong to be available in the 5th or 6th (maybe later) I would take over any safety in this draft.




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    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    I hate Swearinger with a passion. If we draft him before round 4 it will be a tremendous reach. As far as ILB goes I'd be fine at this point waiting until the middle rounds or even picking up a UDFA. The only ones I think have value in the first two rounds are Ogletree and Brown.




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    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpiderWebb View Post
    If we draft him before round 4 it will be a tremendous reach.
    Pretty sure there are 32 front offices who disagree with you there.




  5. #20

    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    Pretty sure there are 32 front offices who disagree with you there.
    That does not mean they are right about Swearinger. There are prospects you could have after him who have a better chance at success. He is a middle of the road guy.




  6. #21

    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpiderWebb View Post
    I hate Swearinger with a passion. If we draft him before round 4 it will be a tremendous reach. As far as ILB goes I'd be fine at this point waiting until the middle rounds or even picking up a UDFA. The only ones I think have value in the first two rounds are Ogletree and Brown.
    Swearinger just isn't all that good at much of anything. When playing close to the line of scrimmage or directly over a receiver he can get a jam, but his hips are too stiff to flip and run downfield. He is also "too" physical--bad tackling technique that will lead to penalties and bounce-offs--and tends to make up for poor instincts with overcommitment.

    When playing deep he just doesn't have enough range or change of direction to consistently defend even half the field much less play centerfielder. That's an athletic/physical limitation. I just don't think Swearinger will be special in the NFL although he's capable enough to fetch a 4th round selection or so.

    Josh Norris' list is cute--he's still trying to make a name for himself by going out on a limb with rankings--but he's got Phillip Thomas and Matt Elam WAY too low and JJ Wilcox/Shamarko Thomas way too high IMO. It is good to see him give my man Earl Wolff a little love, though--I like him a lot in the 4th for us. Versatile, capable all-around player who really hits hard for his size and has experience in an NFL-style defense.




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    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    I doubt it. Because this draft is a little weak talent wise he will probably go higher than that, but mid to late 2nd is probably the best he can hope for. Luckily we have some of the best scouts in the business so we can let some other team reach on Swearinger.

    Edit: meant to quote LukeDaniel but this phone is a piece of shit.




  8. #23

    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    I think Shamarko Thomas is about right, Philip Thomas a little too low and Matt Elam Way too low.

    Swearinger is a Bernard Pollard clone.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




  9. #24

    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    So many people have forgotten about Ray Ray Armstrong it is a little disheartening. Last year he would have been the unquestioned number one safety in the draft. Thanks to that Miami scandal he will be lucky to get drafted. Yes a year from football could hurt him, but considering he just ran a 4.4 at his pro day I would say he has been working diligently and it wont take long before he regains form. At 6'3" 220 and a 4.4 he has drawn comparisons to Sean Taylor in his play style. I would take him over Swearing and in 3 years over any Safety in this draft. He has the potential to be the steal of the draft and could turn into a beast.




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    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    Quote Originally Posted by Ngata_Chance View Post
    So many people have forgotten about Ray Ray Armstrong it is a little disheartening. Last year he would have been the unquestioned number one safety in the draft. Thanks to that Miami scandal he will be lucky to get drafted. Yes a year from football could hurt him, but considering he just ran a 4.4 at his pro day
    He ran a 4.65. that's not exactly a 4.4
    http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/0...es-return.html




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    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Swearinger is a Bernard Pollard clone.
    Totally different players IMO.

    Pollard is considerably bigger to start with and is more stiff in coverage. Swearinger is more athletic, faster, but can't play in the box like Pollard can, he isn't close to Pollard in run support. Swearinger is better in coverage, and its not even close, obviously we don't know how it will play out in the NFL, but Swearinger was covering slot receivers at South Carolina. Pollard gets eaten alive in coverage when he's asked to cover tight ends, let a lot slot receivers.

    In terms of on field energy, and the fact that both can lay the wood, yes I see the comparison there, but that's where it really ends.




  12. #27

    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    He ran a 4.65. that's not exactly a 4.4
    http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/0...es-return.html

    When he first ran it people were saying it was 4.4, I think I got the text sent to my phone. Either way, 4.65 6'4" 220 is still a premier athlete at the position. I would take his upside over any safeties in this draft.




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    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    I personally like Swearinger and would approve a selection in round late round 2 or early round 3 if available.

    As far as ILB, I think we just have to wait and see who falls. There is a good chance that none are available by #32 except for probably Minter, who I really am not really that high on anymore. With this McClain pickup, the Ravens do not have to worry about forcing the ILB issue and now support their $120 million QB with another playmaking WR or we could grab another safety or LT.

    Truthfully speaking, there is a good chance that #32 is another team's pick in the end. The Raven's have the arsenal to trade up for a player especially considering, there aren't that many holes on this team and could in fact target a slot to pick the player they covet.


    Final thought, is Nigel Carr still on the practice squad and does anyone know his status for getting time this year?




  14. #29

    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    Other than Eifert, Patterson and Austin I hope the Ravens trade back. I would be ok taking Teo or another ILB if they trade back. It is going to be interesting to see if there is a run on QBs in the first round or if this is like Rogers draft where few went in the first round. If there is no run on QBs it makes the valuable in a trade to a team at the top of the 2nd. If there is a run on QBs in the first it means there is probably a better player than expected that can be picked at 32. Not sure how I want to see it go.




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    Re: I still want this to happen, I want another Middle Linebacker

    Quote Originally Posted by Ngata_Chance View Post
    That does not mean they are right about Swearinger. There are prospects you could have after him who have a better chance at success. He is a middle of the road guy.
    Nothing about this comment makes a shred of sense. Isn't that the case in every draft? You could have a prospect who is drafted behind a certain player who COULD have better success? I'm sure Wilson or Martin COULD have a better career than Trent Richardson, but I don't think there were too many teams considering drafting them anywhere near Richardson in last year's draft.

    The statement that Swearinger is a 4th rounder is ridiculous. This is not a super draft for over all talent, but it is a nice draft for certain positions (TE and S come to mind first). If Swearinger is regarded by pretty much everyone who does this for a living as a 35-62 prospect, it's because he's shown a lot to warrant that feeling. It's not because he is being overdrafted due to a positional shortage. That was Harrison Smith last year.




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