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    So you've now graduated to wiki for your quotes.

    Yeah, I am going to stick to what a researcher has to say on the topic. Might want to give this piece of scholarly research a read:

    http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s6681.pdf
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    Re: How can anyone still believe in God

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    Leave out the insults, Trap.
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    Re: How can anyone still believe in God

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Leave out the insults, Trap.
    I respoinded to your insult about an un-true statement and you've mocked me plenty
    of times in both forums but I'll apologize.

    That's where Einstein misses the boat. I'll ask God to forgive me.
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  5. #101

    Re: How can anyone still believe in God

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I seem to recall that two of the most intelligent scientists in human history, Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein, were both religious.

    Both thought they were attempting to figure out the mind of God.

    Both thought the universe was so splendid, so spectacular that it could only have been the work of something divine.

    Guess they're just "illogical".
    They sure could have been. Geniuses can fall into traps of illogicality. Anyone can because everyone is human.

    For every Newton and Einstein there is at least one scientist who is an atheist (probably more). So, I wouldn't go that route to make any sort of point.

    And for the record, Einstein was an agnostic pantheist: a fancy way of saying he admitted he didn't know if there was a god or not but chose to believe that if there was one, it was identical to nature itself and had no mind or human qualities. (A far cry from "religious" as you said.)
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    Re: How can anyone still believe in God

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    It's not like that at all, but since you seem to think that's the only point we've got and you can call it "invalid" as if that means your right, that's cool.
    I call your point invalid because it is.

    You, Sirdowski, and Jonboy: Something can't come from nothing. But god can come from nothing.
    Me: You just contradicted yourself.
    You: No we didn't, because god isn't a something, god is a someone.
    Me: All someones are somethings.

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    Re: How can anyone still believe in God

    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post
    I call your point invalid because it is.

    You, Sirdowski, and Jonboy: Something can't come from nothing. But god can come from nothing.
    Me: You just contradicted yourself.
    You: No we didn't, because god isn't a something, god is a someone.
    Me: All someones are somethings.

    /thread
    So, by than by that very standard, your belief of how the universe started is also, invalid. Correct?
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    Re: How can anyone still believe in God

    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post
    I call your point invalid because it is.

    You, Sirdowski, and Jonboy: Something can't come from nothing. But god can come from nothing.
    Me: You just contradicted yourself.
    You: No we didn't, because god isn't a something, god is a someone.
    Me: All someones are somethings.

    /thread

    OK let me correct you then.
    All natural things, events and beings have a cause. that long string of caused events msut have an un-caused CAUSE.

    That Un-caused cause must be SUPERNATURAL as, ALL NATURAL things, events and beings have a precursor cause.

    That suoernatural event, thing, being that is the uncaused cause can sometimes be called God. It s supernatural, in the sense that it is not of this natural world(and by world i mean the entirety of matter in the universe).




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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post

    OK let me correct you then.
    All natural things, events and beings have a cause. that long string of caused events msut have an un-caused CAUSE.

    That Un-caused cause must be SUPERNATURAL as, ALL NATURAL things, events and beings have a precursor cause.

    That suoernatural event, thing, being that is the uncaused cause can sometimes be called God. It s supernatural, in the sense that it is not of this natural world(and by world i mean the entirety of matter in the universe).
    Aliens.

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    Re: How can anyone still believe in God

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Aliens.

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    but aliens are natural... they cant cause themselves... lol




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    Except the chain of cause and effect you're describing breaks down at the quantum level. It's not a simple as saying that something had to knock down the first domino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post

    but aliens are natural... they cant cause themselves... lol
    More, older Aliens.

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