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Thread: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out
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04-05-2013, 02:40 PM #37
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Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out
It's certainly possible, but going off of him being a huge advocate for GLB rights and meaning that there's a good chance he's gay, that's like saying I'm a huge advocate for Muslim tolerance, so I must be a Muslim.
I am a HUGE advocate for GLB rights as well, and I can say with 100% honesty, I am a white, straight, American male with a wife, 2 kids, and no interest in men sexually. If Brendon was truly gay, I would think he would be the first one to step out and make it known, but given his love for his kids and wife, I'd tend to believe it's genuine that he's straight or bisexual..
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Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out
Maybe, maybe not. For the past 15 years, I have been in the business of persuading people and I can say from my experience (not that it's the final say) that is not what would be the likely outcome.
Absolutely you can. But do you do that by pushing something on people or pulling them to it?
I agree with you in part. I think the people who are ignorant of the prejudices of other people may be woken up about other people's prejudice, so it may help them join in. But again, the people who are prejudice are the ones you need to reach. And that is why I am saying this is not the way to reach them, that's really all I am talking about.
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04-05-2013, 03:10 PM #39Steve Flacco, Apparently
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Here's the thing. If a gay player simply acts the same as any straight player (ie Appears in public with his spouse or partner) they are by definition "coming out." There's nothing splashy or in your face about it except in the fact that they're defying an established norm.
Was Harbaugh coming out as straight when he kissed his wife after hoisting the Lombardi? No. But a gay man would have been.
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04-05-2013, 03:35 PM #41Steve Flacco, Apparently
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You missed my point. Straight people don't HAVE to do anything like that because we live in a heteronormative society. These press conferences and choreographed coming outs are a response to our expectation as a society that people are straight. Or did I miss the thread calling it gross and rubbing it in your face when Harbs kissed his wife?
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04-05-2013, 03:45 PM #43Steve Flacco, Apparently
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Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out
Another facet to this, and related to what spambot was saying, is that by coming out in this way the players agree controlling the story which is important in this matter. Just going out and 'being gay' would result in tabloid sensationalist reporting if such a story, pictures and eyewitness accounts and all. This way the people in question get to set the stage themselves and have the opportunity to answer questions and really get across the point that it's nothing to be ashamed of. It sets the tone. Especially when you know the media would treat it in a certain way.
Someone doesn't come out as gay to their parents by bringing a man home, because it wouldn't give them the opportunity to take it in the news and ask what they need to ask me.
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04-05-2013, 06:50 PM #46Regular 1st Stringer
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04-06-2013, 02:14 AM #47
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So if a football player comes out and says it's okay to be different, then it's okay to be different?
How about just being yourself and to hell with what other people think? Sure there are folks who hate others because of their choice between taco and sausage. There are folks who hate others because of the color of their skin. Everybody hates someone else, it's the way of the world.
The folks I hate, along with Squeeler fans and liberals, are those who demand I accept them. I don't have to accept or like you. It's my choice. There are laws in place that say I can't discriminate against you for any reason, so it's not like my feelings are having any effect on your life.
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Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out
On a more general note, I find it strange the amount of people that are against gay players coming out citing things like 'I don't care who they sleep with'.... Well just ignore it then. It doesn't impact your life any. Don't click the links, turn the TV or page over.
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