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    4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/r...,5781613.story

    Ayanbadejo, who was given recognition along with Kluwe from former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue at the event Thursday night, predicted that more than one player may come out as gay during their playing career. Ayanbadejo said the groundwork is being laid to reduce the pressure on such a player, and said as many as four players could conceivably come out simultaneously.

    "I think it will happen sooner than you think," Ayanbadejo said. "We're in talks with a handful of players who are considering it. There are up to four players being talked to right now and they're trying to be organized so they can come out on the same day together. It would make a major splash and take the pressure off one guy. It would be a monumental day if a handful or a few guys come out.





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    Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    Who cares?





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    Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    Who cares?
    Lots of people, obviously.
    "A lot" is a two word expression denoting a great deal or greatly, as in "I like sunshine a lot." "Alot" is a lovable imaginary grammar monster. You can love a lot; you can love an alot; you can love alots a lot; but they are not the same thing.





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    Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    This belongs in the non-Ravens football forum. Not the politics forum.
    "A lot" is a two word expression denoting a great deal or greatly, as in "I like sunshine a lot." "Alot" is a lovable imaginary grammar monster. You can love a lot; you can love an alot; you can love alots a lot; but they are not the same thing.





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    Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Flipping Birdie View Post
    This belongs in the non-Ravens football forum. Not the politics forum.
    It belongs in the garbage can...





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    Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    Who cares?
    :word

    If people who are gay, and people who want people who are gay to stop being treated as if it's taboo, than stop making news about being gay as if it's some big fucking deal.

    Geez.... you're gay, so what? Now go tackle that guy, go home and be with who you love like everyone else regardless of sexual preference.





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    Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    :word

    If people who are gay, and people who want people who are gay to stop being treated as if it's taboo, than stop making news about being gay as if it's some big fucking deal.

    Geez.... you're gay, so what? Now go tackle that guy, go home and be with who you love like everyone else regardless of sexual preference.
    you know its not that easy. perception is there arent gays in the NFL and they wouldnt be welcomed if they are. So in changing Taboo "coming out" is the only way to actually change that otherwise some will continue to believe that they simply arent or cant be there. Some day hopefully the approach is what you have stated but currently it wouldnt do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    you know its not that easy. perception is there arent gays in the NFL and they wouldnt be welcomed if they are. So in changing Taboo "coming out" is the only way to actually change that otherwise some will continue to believe that they simply arent or cant be there. Some day hopefully the approach is what you have stated but currently it wouldnt do anything.
    I am more talking about the approach to "coming out". If you're gay be gay, be seen with your partner in public and just let it be. People will find out... if you're a private person and don't want people to know your personal life whether or straight or gay, than don't do that.

    But arranging a coming out party to me is just the wrong way to do it. I think you'd likely turn off just as many people (not that you're gay but with how you did it) as you would have other people applauding it.





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    Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    I am more talking about the approach to "coming out". If you're gay be gay, be seen with your partner in public and just let it be. People will find out... if you're a private person and don't want people to know your personal life whether or straight or gay, than don't do that.

    But arranging a coming out party to me is just the wrong way to do it. I think you'd likely turn off just as many people (not that you're gay but with how you did it) as you would have other people applauding it.
    I dont think its a choice. its going to be a spectacle regardless. Much like Jackie Robinson just played baseball (but obviously couldnt hide that he was black), the subject itself makes it impossible to just "be".
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    Good to hear. I think its one of those things that will help end any stigma. Just by basic percentages youd expect there to be a good many of them really. 1696 roster players, 4% of the population, equals 68 potentially in the NFL. Granted That number will be considerably lower given the sample and rarity of the sport itself but i wouldnt be surprsied if there was 20 or so.
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    I am glad that Mr. Ayanbadejo cleared up the speculation that the decision to cut him was about his activism. He confirmed that it was purely a football decision and he agreed with it.

    As far as his prediction on players "coming out" i don't see how a person's sexual habits has anything to do with football. Those that do it it have that right under the law but I think it's gross to bring it out in public and cause some people to have a gross mental image when they are watching their favorite game. It's a private matter. By all means do what you feel is natural to you but at least have the decency to keep it to yourself.

    I believe strongly in live and let live, but I think it's unecessary that some folks feel they have to constantly bring it up in every facet of our lives.
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    Re: 4 Gay Players Might Come Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Flipping Birdie View Post
    This belongs in the non-Ravens football forum. Not the politics forum.
    how do we know it isnt relative to the Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Fan Dan View Post
    As far as his prediction on players "coming out" i don't see how a person's sexual habits has anything to do with football. Those that do it it have that right under the law but I think it's gross to bring it out in public and cause some people to have a gross mental image when they are watching their favorite game. It's a private matter. By all means do what you feel is natural to you but at least have the decency to keep it to yourself.

    I believe strongly in live and let live, but I think it's unecessary that some folks feel they have to constantly bring it up in every facet of our lives.
    I think you have a good point about it not effecting football regardless. If my favorite player came out as gay, hed still be my favorite player. However the "keep it private because it grosses me out" concept is purely the opposite thought process. Now its effecting you by thinking about it so they cant be honest with themselves and their fans? Its not about anybody else but them really. No reason to hide or be ashamed of who they are to protect somebody elses feelings.
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