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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    My point is just that at EVERY turn, the things PFT drones on and on about turn out to be false. The deer antler velvet cheating crap, the stuff about the Ravens looking like bumbling idiots for not re-signing every one of their free agents immediately, the "Mutiny-gate" stuff...It's all BS, we know it, and after a few weeks, they know it too.

    It amuses me. Nothing more.
    Don't agree at all with this either.

    But that debate is for another thread.
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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    My point is just that at EVERY turn, the things PFT drones on and on about turn out to be false. The deer antler velvet cheating crap, the stuff about the Ravens looking like bumbling idiots for not re-signing every one of their free agents immediately, the "Mutiny-gate" stuff...It's all BS, we know it, and after a few weeks, they know it too.

    It amuses me. Nothing more.
    I don't think that is the point of entities like PFT.

    Like others have said, their main purpose is to create headlines that will garner traffic onto their website, which gets traffic to their investors/advertisers. They're like a centralized location, a hub if you will, for football-related news. PFT gets their stuff from local newspapers, ESPN, Sports Illustrated, NFL Network, interviews, radio shows, etc.

    Their job is not to find facts or report them. Their job is to regurgitate what others are saying and then put their own opinion/hypothesis spin on it.

    It's actually quite brilliant, from a business perspective. They don't have to do shit but re-post what others have done...
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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    So much "news" these days is just rehashing what was already written by some other source. Places like PFT take articles written from people like Mike Preston as 100% factual and run with them.




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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I don't agree with that at all.
    This is such a non-story.. We won the Super Bowl. We lost Q because he wouldn't take a pay cut and San Fran was willing to pay what we couldn't pay.

    The only other story here *might* be Pollard with the rumors of him being a butthead in the clubhouse. My opinion is this - Pollard's antics on the field and on the sideline after one of his many head-hunter penalties might have rubbed the Ravens the wrong was. Supposedly there was a play where he had to be restrained from going after a referee. Who knows..

    But this whole thing is such a non-issue. Everyone got with the program after the alleged mutiny, and the team won a ring.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003 View Post
    This is such a non-story.. We won the Super Bowl. We lost Q because he wouldn't take a pay cut and San Fran was willing to pay what we couldn't pay.

    The only other story here *might* be Pollard with the rumors of him being a butthead in the clubhouse. My opinion is this - Pollard's antics on the field and on the sideline after one of his many head-hunter penalties might have rubbed the Ravens the wrong was. Supposedly there was a play where he had to be restrained from going after a referee. Who knows..

    But this whole thing is such a non-issue. Everyone got with the program after the alleged mutiny, and the team won a ring.
    That's no what RiW was disagreeing with.
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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I am really glad to see Boldin be professional about the whole thing.
    One of the many reasons I really like Boldin. 100% class act. Really can't say anything bad about the guy.




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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    You can say that about Mikie and especially Florio but not all those writers. Schmuck is respected and has been a beat guy longer than most of these posters have been posting.

    Boldin said, "a few guys were less than professional" with HARBs.

    So something definitely went down. NOne of us will never know to the extent but something happened and they inserted McKinney and they started winning all the way thru the SB.

    The other fact is all those few guys are gone for whatever reason including Boldin.

    As for Pollard, nobody complained about those hits when he made them like last year when he ruined Gronk for their SB. Most of us laughed. Then he did it again this year in NE and in the SB.
    Now the homers want to off him.

    Those vets know more football than HARBs and his staff put together and they finally won the big one. Our management told us that we know our jobs better than anyone because we work on it everyday. Supervisors demanded that we speak up during meetings because they needed to know what we knew.

    It just took a little fighting among Ravens to get the system and lineup the players craved for and they won it all. Not even Andy Reid could choke with the talent Ozzie gave HARBs.

    It might be another 12 years before we win our next SB.
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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    NOne of us will never know to the extent but something happened and they inserted McKinney and they started winning all the way thru the SB.
    There was like, 9 weeks between the "mutiny" and McKinney getting put in. He was put in the last week when they rested the starters against the Bengals and then went forward through the playoffs.




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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    They actually started winning against the Giants where Oher started at LT. The line wasn't shifted until the Colts game.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    You can say that about Mikie and especially Florio but not all those writers. Schmuck is respected and has been a beat guy longer than most of these posters have been posting.

    Boldin said, "a few guys were less than professional" with HARBs.

    So something definitely went down. NOne of us will never know to the extent but something happened and they inserted McKinney and they started winning all the way thru the SB.

    The other fact is all those few guys are gone for whatever reason including Boldin.

    As for Pollard, nobody complained about those hits when he made them like last year when he ruined Gronk for their SB. Most of us laughed. Then he did it again this year in NE and in the SB.
    Now the homers want to off him.

    Those vets know more football than HARBs and his staff put together and they finally won the big one. Our management told us that we know our jobs better than anyone because we work on it everyday. Supervisors demanded that we speak up during meetings because they needed to know what we knew.

    It just took a little fighting among Ravens to get the system and lineup the players craved for and they won it all. Not even Andy Reid could choke with the talent Ozzie gave HARBs.

    It might be another 12 years before we win our next SB.
    Boldin would still be here if he said yes to a $2 million pay cut.

    The only player who obviously was not wanted back at any cost was Pollard. And looking at his history, it's a disturbing pattern...one that likely will continue. As for his play on the field, I was never really high on him, so I really have no idea who you are referring to with that...he still has many believers on this board...I was never one of them.

    And McKinnie was put back in only because of injury...not some result of players standing up to the coach.

    As for us not winning another for 12 years...maybe, but it won't be the result of us not wanting any part of Bernard Pollard.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    Considering that most of our major losses happened on Defense, I am willing to say that we will be even better this year on D than last year. Yes we lost leadership but I also think that "Harbs and Co" which include Ozzie know more about the Ravens staff than I do to put the right pieces together. The past 5 years have shown it.

    Kudos to Q for not shying away from the subject to actually talk about it a tad bit.




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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    People just don't want to believe that the story is true for some reason. Now you have a respected player like Boldin coming out and admitting that some players handled it unprofessionally.

    What more do you want?

    John Harbaugh salvaged the situation as long as he needed to, to the best of his abilities, until he got the ring and now he doesn't have to put up with it. He REALLY doesn't have to put up with it from players who don't move the needle. On the field.

    Gangster. I keep telling you guys. Show up to his Godson's baptism and kill his father the same day. They bucked at Harbaugh and they dissed Flacco. Now, Harbaugh and Flacco have all of the stroke and control of the locker room is shifting.

    Quite normal actually.
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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I don't get why this is upsetting posters.

    Something happened that Harbaugh did not like.

    There are 2 players who are being referred to as the root of that "incident" and I don't think it's a leap to conclude that it, along with other incidents that none of us have an idea about caused Pollard's release and may have played a small role in the lack of urgency for Ed being re-signed.

    Even if everything "evil PFT" has inferred about that incident is true, I don't see how it reflects bad on the organization from the media, other fans or players. So a coach that just won a Super Bowl didn't like being challenged by what Q is calling an "unproffessional" manner. So what? One replaceable player was released and an ICON in the late December of his career are gone. So? He didn't cut Flacco or Rice or Torrey...the core of our team is still here.

    How do some of you let that stuff bother you this much? I don't even think the PFT, or Preston's statement are inflammatory in any way at all unless you just want to hear all rainbows and roses about the Ravens 24x7.
    I don't think your second sentence is necessarily true.

    Two things are bothersome enough to complain about, to me.

    First, while columnist are allowed to have opinions, it crosses the line when they come up with speculation, and then in a later story treat the speculation as fact.

    The idea that Harbaugh was upset by Pollard, and so upset that he cut him for his outspoken nature, is speculation, not fact. You can't go to Pollard and present it as fact in order to get a quote out of him, and then use the quote to further create the illusion that they are reporting fact.

    I have to believe they've hurt Pollard reputation around the league...based on what? And maybe they've hurt Harbaugh's too, if players who might want to come here start believing that Harbaugh's locker room is divisive and he cuts guys he doesn't like.

    Maybe that's overblown, and maybe there's no reason to get upset, but if I were in the shoes of Harbaugh or Pollard, I wouldn't be happy.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Those vets know more football than HARBs and his staff put together
    That's priceless. You're really "all in" on this, aren't you?
    I've upped my standards. Up yours.




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    Re: Q Gives His Take on Mutiny-Gate

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I am really glad to see Boldin be professional about the whole thing.
    Really going to miss that guy




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