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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    No. Never claimed you did.

    Like I said, I agreed with you to an extent.
    N/P.

    As far as Moeller goes...if he's so good, why bring in Castillo?




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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Harbaugh, in his first five seasons, is on pace for a HoF career.

    Yet he's knocked for doing what 75% of all head coaches do -- not call plays.

    Effing ponderous.
    Maybe I've just got PTSD from seeing the likes of Dusty Baker, Fredi Gonzalez, and Mike Scioscia praised because they win a lot of games, so ipso facto they must be good managers (though I didn't actually say Harbs wasn't good, just not irreplaceable. There's a pretty big gap between those two states of being).




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    N/P.

    As far as Moeller goes...if he's so good, why bring in Castillo?
    He was brought in as a running game consultant.

    I don't think that's a knock on Moeller. If anything, its a knock on Wilbert Montgomery.
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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    He was brought in as a running game consultant.

    I don't think that's a knock on Moeller. If anything, its a knock on Wilbert Montgomery.
    I believe that Castillo was brought in specifically to work with the o-line. Ozzie mentioned in a press conference that Castillo was known for developing young o-linemen. They just made up a fancy title for him. I'm not sure why they are keeping Moeller though.




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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    I believe that Castillo was brought in specifically to work with the o-line. Ozzie mentioned in a press conference that Castillo was known for developing young o-linemen. They just made up a fancy title for him. I'm not sure why they are keeping Moeller though.
    That's my understanding. And with all of the talk about Castillo's projections for KO, the O-line definitely seems to be the focus, not the running game.




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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    I said a few weeks back that the departures of Boldin and Pollard (and now Reed) had Harbaugh's fingerprints all over them. It looks like that is true. Apparently, the SB win gave him the freedom to get rid of all those he thought questioned his authority. Some may think that's the sign of a strong take-charge coach but it can also be a sign of insecurity. I'm not sure we'll miss Reed all that much but it would be nice to still have Boldin and Pollard in purple. Oh, and this has zero to do with "hating" Harbaugh. Such emotions over a football coach are for children.




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    Quote Originally Posted by veritas View Post
    I said a few weeks back that the departures of Boldin and Pollard (and now Reed) had Harbaugh's fingerprints all over them. It looks like that is true. Apparently, the SB win gave him the freedom to get rid of all those he thought questioned his authority. Some may think that's the sign of a strong take-charge coach but it can also be a sign of insecurity. I'm not sure we'll miss Reed all that much but it would be nice to still have Boldin and Pollard in purple. Oh, and this has zero to do with "hating" Harbaugh. Such emotions over a football coach are for children.
    By the same token, did anyone ever question Lombardi, or Parcells, or any of the other tough coaches who clearly put their stamp on their respective teams? Only time will tell what kind of coach John Harbaugh really is, but just because he puts his stamp (or fingerprints) on his team, it doesn't necessarily mean he's insecure. What I think is that, by definition, since he'd never been a head coach before (or even a coordinator), he was clearly an inexperienced head coach in 2008, and that's why I feel it's fair to say he's evolved over the past 5 years. 2013 is definitely going to be an important year in John Harbaugh's head coaching career. And based on the past 5 years, I expect to see a similarly successful outing. And if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it.




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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    The little General should have won all those championship games and more with all the talent Ozzie gave him. It took that talent via a revolt to convince the owner to get rid of CAM. Hell it took Ray, Reed and Birk to beg Ozzie to sign McKinney and the General still didn't play him til after the revolt. Then they started winning straight thru the SB. Then he ships them out in body bags. Ray should have a least 2 more rings under HARBs. That makes him replaceable. Hell, we ran Shula out of town for blowing SB 3 just to prove a point.
    That's crap. The Ravens haven't been head-and-shoulders above the rest of the league in talent, only held back by their coaches. As much as I've joined in the criticism of Cam- and think much of it is deserved- he's not The Reason the Ravens didn't win in their first two AFCC games in the Harbaugh era.

    McKinnie is the reason McKinnie didn't take the field until he did last year, not Harbaugh. Had McKinnie taken the field starting in Week 1, we wouldn't have had the same blocking as we saw in the playoffs. We would have had a fat, unmotivated slug at LT getting Flacco and the RB's killed every play.




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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    ... Ray should have a least 2 more rings under HARBs...
    So I guess you feel that Harbaugh was responsible for Evan's dropped pass in 2011 (?) ... Bc




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    If this team doesn't draft Joe Flacco do we make the playoffs the past five years? What do you think has been more integral to our success, drafting a franchise QB or hiring Harbaugh?

    I'm not real happy with the guy getting involved with personnel decisions because I think he is in over his head when it comes to personnel. Letting Boldin go was a mistake. Ellerbe certainly wasn't a Harbaugh guy. He sat in the doghouse for a long time. I certainly wouldn't have paid him 7 million, but the offer we made was low and the team knew he wasn't going to take it. Pollard was a cheap and pretty effective SS. Ozzie wouldn't have extended him last season if he was as awful on the field as fans are now making him out to be. Reed was a bit overpaid, but he was another one that we didn't make an offer to that he would seriously consider. A lot of the offers we made to these "malcontents" were just face saving offers. It took Harbaugh forever to play Kruger. Remember how much people questioned why our second round pick wasn't active week in and week out? I don't trust Harbaugh with personnel. He needs to learn how to effectively handle these "malcontents". Good coaches figure it out. You're dealing with a bunch of guys, many with limited intelligence, that typically make more than you.




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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Wow, we one like what, 2 Super Bowls in 12 years and how many teams don't? How many teams don't even sniff the playoffs?

    I don't get you guys.





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    Im not sure why letting vets go that were complaining about practicing after getting their asses handed to them is really a bad thing? Harbs wants guys that want to practice hard and put the team first. I dont really see why thats a problem or knock on harbs in any way. Insecurity? how about pointing the fingers at the players for not being professionals and crying about doing their job?
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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Im not sure why letting vets go that were complaining about practicing after getting their asses handed to them is really a bad thing? Harbs wants guys that want to practice hard and put the team first. I dont really see why thats a problem or knock on harbs in any way. Insecurity? how about pointing the fingers at the players for not being professionals and crying about doing their job?
    You know, I was one of the biggest Anti-Harbaugh guys out there. But when he won the Super Bowl not only did I earn a big ole, no, A GIANT cup of "Shut the fuck up", but I have to defend the man for at least the next 5 years. Plus, my faith in Ozzie Newsome never wavered during his tenure, I did bitch a bit about the lack of drafting O-Line back in the Sun(ahhfuck-won't even finish the name of the shithole)days.

    Super Bowl, enjoy it people.




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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Im not sure why letting vets go that were complaining about practicing after getting their asses handed to them is really a bad thing? Harbs wants guys that want to practice hard and put the team first. I dont really see why thats a problem or knock on harbs in any way. Insecurity? how about pointing the fingers at the players for not being professionals and crying about doing their job?
    Right, Ed Reed is a slacker and baby who doesn't want to work hard at being a quality professional football player. That's a totally plausible take on the situation.




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    Re: Rumor: Harbs wanted Reed gone

    Didn't this whole Harbs didn't want Reed originate from a Preston article. Come on people.

    You would think we haven't made the playoffs once in the Harbs era, the way some of you are talking. Fact of the matter is under Harbs the Ravens have made 5 straight post season appearances, 2 division titles, 3 AFCCG appearances and 1 Super Bowl title (plus only a handful of plays away from being in 3 Super Bowls). His record speaks for itself.




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