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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?



    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Watson is a LIGHT YEARS better prospect than Harewood.
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    I would certainly hope so if any team is considering him in the first round. Still, the guy being better than Harewood isn't saying much. Let me put it this way: Is Watson a guy who can come into the pros and play LT from day 1?

    As to what his coach says, well, college coaches often use superlatives when talking about their own guys. I'm sure the pro scouts will have their own, more objective take on the guy.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    Quote Originally Posted by trailhiker85 View Post
    I would certainly hope so if any team is considering him in the first round. Still, the guy being better than Harewood isn't saying much. Let me put it this way: Is Watson a guy who can come into the pros and play LT from day 1?

    As to what his coach says, well, college coaches often use superlatives when talking about their own guys. I'm sure the pro scouts will have their own, more objective take on the guy.
    Well, there's also the case of Harewood not playing much football and then doing ok at Morehouse vs. Watson not playing and then holding his own plus some at FSU.

    Morehouse v. FSU

    Big difference there.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    I guess I unnecessarily muddied the waters by bringing up Harewood.

    What I'm really trying to ask is if Watson (or any other draft prospect NOT named Joeckel, Fisher, or Johnson) is capable of coming in and starting this year for the Ravens at LT? If not, then to me it doesn't make sense for the Ravens to draft a tackle in the first round.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    Quote Originally Posted by trailhiker85 View Post
    I guess I unnecessarily muddied the waters by bringing up Harewood.

    What I'm really trying to ask is if Watson (or any other draft prospect NOT named Joeckel, Fisher, or Johnson) is capable of coming in and starting this year for the Ravens at LT? If not, then to me it doesn't make sense for the Ravens to draft a tackle in the first round.
    I know a lot of people will shit on this, but if you have a guy who you think could start at RT this year (with Oher at LT) and LT next year and then for 4 years after that (like I think Menalik could), then I wouldn't have a problem rolling with that.

    Late 2 you could probably pick up Chris Faulk though, and he could possibly start at LT.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    That sounds like yet another OL experiment, and way too dicey to use a 1st round pick on. And I for one am tired of seeing Oher see-saw between RT and LT. He needs to stay on the right and the only time he should EVER go back to LT is in a dire emergency. Honestly, I'd rather see McKinnie back for another year (holds nose). And we all know McKinnie's question marks.

    If you're going to gamble then use a later pick, not a first rounder.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    Quote Originally Posted by trailhiker85 View Post
    That sounds like yet another OL experiment, and way too dicey to use a 1st round pick on. And I for one am tired of seeing Oher see-saw between RT and LT. He needs to stay on the right and the only time he should EVER go back to LT is in a dire emergency. Honestly, I'd rather see McKinnie back for another year (holds nose). And we all know McKinnie's question marks.

    If you're going to gamble then use a later pick, not a first rounder.
    Hey, if Castillo really likes a guy and convinces Oz & Co. that a guy is worthy of being picked there, I'm not gonna complain.

    I'm also not of the opinion that Oher can't improve at LT with some help from Castillo.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    Quote Originally Posted by trailhiker85 View Post
    That sounds like yet another OL experiment, and way too dicey to use a 1st round pick on. And I for one am tired of seeing Oher see-saw between RT and LT. He needs to stay on the right and the only time he should EVER go back to LT is in a dire emergency. Honestly, I'd rather see McKinnie back for another year (holds nose). And we all know McKinnie's question marks.

    If you're going to gamble then use a later pick, not a first rounder.
    ITA!

    I think Ohers time at LT has actually caused him to regress from the player he was as a rookie.Just a horrible idea by the coaching staff from the very beginning.He doesn't have the wingspan to be a quality LT in the NFL and in all honesty is probably built more to play OG than T.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    Hey, if Castillo really likes a guy and convinces Oz & Co. that a guy is worthy of being picked there, I'm not gonna complain.

    I'm also not of the opinion that Oher can't improve at LT with some help from Castillo.
    I don't know exactly what Castillo envisions for the OL, but I'm sure he will give valuable input on the draft.

    But as a mere run-of-the-mill fan, I'm of the opinion we've seen enough of Oher on the left side. I don't think his development will be helped by yet more see-sawing. The Ravens will do what they feel is best, but I really, really hope it doesn't mean Oher moving back to the left, even for half a season.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    Minter is not a name I hope will be called by the Ravens. I'm In love with Brown. Boy can play. But also Riddick and Greene could be had later I think.

    LT, not sure where he will be drafted, but members here got me in love with Armstead. Wow I really like him, maybe he can slide in at LT. And he is smart, and was a leader for his team. I think I read he even called plays for them. I like him a lot. Could he be #32 or second round. ?




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    In general though, at #32 I'm hoping Oz can trade back and pick up enough ammo to move up and get a 2nd pick in the 3rd on top of 2 2nds without sacrificing so much that they can't move up a little later as well if need be. Four players from 2-3 in this draft (particularly at S, ILB, OL & WR/TE) could really provide great on field value to this team in 2013. They need to be stars, but if they can be on the level of Upshaw, I'd be salivating for the season.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    For OT look no further than terron armstead, I think he will be a legit left tackle in a couple of years, much like staley is now for San Fran.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    For OT look no further than terron armstead, I think he will be a legit left tackle in a couple of years, much like staley is now for San Fran.
    Beyond his workout measurables, can you sell me on Armstead?




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    like Brown of KSU. Not sure I would spend a first round pick on an ILB. I would be shocked if Ozzie doesn't move up or down.




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    I really do not see what is so good about Minter, I have seen some his tape. Not that impressed. He also has difficulty in pass coverage due to his lack of speed and his inability to be flexible by opening up his hips.

    Arthur Brown is clearly a better prospect.




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    Re: Could the Ravens pass on Minter?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    Beyond his workout measurables, can you sell me on Armstead?
    Watch his tape. He's got that elite first step, against the speed rushers he gets back doesnt square up his body where the defender can go either side of him, shuffles and uses his hands and feet speed to just push the passer on around the back of the QB, perfect tackle technique. He can pull and get to the second level, where so inexperience shows here, sometimes blocking the wrong man or missing entirely. Obviously that can be coached up.

    He's strong but would need to hit the weight room specifically his legs to get a better anchor for the stronger pass rushers.

    He's got all the potential in the world. He was Dominate in the east west shrine and senior bowl.

    I didnt know who he was until the combine, I then went and watch about 8 games from his college and then the two all star games prior to the combine and was really really impressed. Rarely do you have a chance to hit on a left tackle this late, but I think he's that one of a kind that can do it.

    His situation is so comparable to joe staley its eerie.




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