Ravens plan on meeting with Elvis Dumervil next week

iggyman555 · 03-16-2013, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil would have to wait five days from the time he terminates his agent to hire a new one. It's the NFLPA rules. Saga

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil's former agent also has right to waive five-day waiting period for his former client to hire new agent.

**bt12483** · 03-16-2013, 05:31 PM

I saw a stat on ESPN or something yesterday that Dumervil has the most sacks since 2006. OR if not very close. Plus he missed time that one year due to injury.

He had 17 sacks in one season under Nolan. You would think in a similar def as ours.

**StingerNLG** · 03-16-2013, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider

Elvis Dumervil and his agent are parting ways, according to sources close to the situation

Ya think??

Man, for a backloaded contract with a low cap number this year to be timed with a possible Suggs move next year could be an incredible move.

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**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2013, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by esmd

Seems to me since we're loading up on the d-line and have lots of holes at LB, we'll be seeing a lot of, if not a total, 4-3 defense next year. They're going to have to find a MLB who can really run. I don't think McClain is that guy, but we'll see. Seems to me we have Upshaw at one OLB spot and need to fill the other two spots.

P.S. Dumervil works for me. He's got gas left in the tank, and teamed with what should be a healthy Suggs, would give other teams fits.

I agree, I think we're going to remain a hybrid defense, but the fact that we've not gone out to get a true NT, says to me that we're going to play in more of a 4-3 next season. Believe it or not, in 2011, we played more snaps out of a 4-3 base defense than 3-4, and we had Jarrett Johnson playing 4-3 OLB, so maybe Upshaw could play in that role.

Dumerville-Canty (3 techinique)-Ngata (Nose shade)-Suggs

Upshaw (Sam) Te'o/Minter/Brown/Greene/Ogletree (Mike) McClain/Bynes (Will)

That would be a pretty good front 7. With a lot of depth behind that too.

iggyman555 · 03-16-2013, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil's former agent also has right to waive five-day waiting period for his former client to hire new agent.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

There you go. RT @MikeGarafolo: Told me he will do that. RT @AdamSchefter: Dumervil's ex-agent has right to waive five-day waiting period.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 03-16-2013, 05:35 PM

Less than 45% of the league has as much cap space as we do, and a few of them don't need him or have other plans...so there's that.

**bt12483** · 03-16-2013, 05:37 PM

If we were to get Dumervil and somehow Ogletree falls to us...that could be a beastly DEF front.

**bmorecareful** · 03-16-2013, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by esmd

Seems to me since we're loading up on the d-line and have lots of holes at LB, we'll be seeing a lot of, if not a total, 4-3 defense next year. They're going to have to find a MLB who can really run. I don't think McClain is that guy, but we'll see. Seems to me we have Upshaw at one OLB spot and need to fill the other two spots.

P.S. Dumervil works for me. He's got gas left in the tank, and teamed with what should be a healthy Suggs, would give other teams fits.

Moving to a 4-3 would create more holes than it would solve. Right now we're set on the DL with a rotation of Canty, Jones, McPhee, and Spears on the ends, with Ngata starting at nose backed up by Cody and Tyson. That's a good lineup if Ngata is moved to NT as I expect.

At OLB we're set with Suggs and Upshaw, McClellan is the top backup, and only need to add depth. ILB is the only really big question market in the front 7, but I expect them to add to that spot with a draft pick and maybe a FA, and they'll pick 2 starters out of McClain, Bynes, Carr, and whoever we add. Might not be pretty but there are plenty of fast LBs to add speed in this draft.

If we move to a 4-3 who are the LBs? Suggs and Upshaw are your ends in that set, so you're picking 3 starting LBs out of our current crop of ILBs, and all of them are a bad fit for the 4-3. No thanks... we'll keep running 4 man fronts in the nickel but our base D should be 3-4 unless there are major personnel changes at this point.

**Paintballguy** · 03-16-2013, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Ya think??

Man, for a backloaded contract with a low cap number this year to be timed with a possible Suggs move next year could be an incredible move.

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I agree. I'd cut Suggs after this season.

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**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2013, 05:40 PM

If we did get Dumerville, you can pretty much rule out getting a vet MLB, we'll almost certainly get one in the draft, and a safety who can cover.

**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2013, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

I agree. I'd cut Suggs after this season.

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Even if he had a 10+ sack season? I wouldn't unless he really under performs.

**Paintballguy** · 03-16-2013, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Even if he had a 10+ sack season? I wouldn't unless he really under performs.

If he had a really good year it'd be tough to. But Suggs is definitely on the radar for a potential cap casualty next year

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