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at least my position has a gun. You guys are simply dismissing it, but people in the industry are not. I have commincated some of their opinions. You have provided nothing in support of your position. I have nfl media people talking about the same things I've been posting. You have your own words as your sole support. I'd say the scales tip in my favor.
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They are reporting what the head of the NFLPA is saying. Unless you are a quarterback you're going to be pissed at Smith. He screwed you. Of course Smith is going to try and point the finger at the owners. What choice does he have? Let him file a grievance. If there is any truth to this he will.
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Pat Kirwan has talked about this several times. The market is flooded and the cap is flat. Plus drafted players are cheap and plentiful. A lot of FA won't get signed at all and it will likely be worse next year.
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04-03-2013, 04:42 PM #88
Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
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04-03-2013, 04:43 PM #89Steve Flacco, Apparently
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Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
We're dismissing it because there is zero possibility that it's true, and a heavily biased source saying that he's heard reports of concerns of it is about as far from a smoking gun as possible. Collusion requires that the owners are A. Working together in secret to keep salaries down, and B. That salaries are down.
A is unprovable, and there is zero evidence to change that. B is perfectly easy to disprove. Contracts and team salaries are public information. As of April 1, no team had more than 23% of it's possible cap space available and 27 of them had less than 15%. Clearly, teams are spending to the cap in the vast majority of cities. The ones who aren't are compelled by the CBA to get up to the cap floor soon anyway.
Positional devaluation is NOT collusion. The best punter in the universe will earn less than the 128th best cornerback. The best corner will earn less than the 10th best QB. That's not collusion, unless you also think Sam Koch should make more than Torrey Smith.My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron
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04-03-2013, 04:48 PM #91
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04-03-2013, 04:49 PM #92
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right, i agree. i mean it's not rocket science to figure out that some positions are worth more than others ALWAYS and some positions have fluctuated over the years depending on who is available, how the game is trending, etc. qbs are the cornerstone of a team, even the ones who aren't considered 'elite'. it takes teams years sometimes to find one because it's the toughest position to learn and skillfully play year after year and you have to look no further than our very own Ravens to see that is true. likewise, while finding good offensive lineman is also pretty important, it's not so important that teams won't let guys walk if they're asking far above market value. everybody is spending, and the ones that aren't are waiting to see what happens in the draft or spending a bit to shore up other needs so that they have more flexibility in the draft. you can't even get two owners in the same skybox lol, let alone all 32 together 'colluding'.
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04-03-2013, 05:04 PM #95Steve Flacco, Apparently
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My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron
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