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04-04-2013, 02:02 PM #157
Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
He's still regurgitating what he's heard. That's like me telling him I've seen BA get jiggy with a man, then he tweets,m "hearing BA is gay". He is not a source of evidence, I am the source.
So in this case the agents are the source, ie you've only got one source, not multiple as you've claimed.
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Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
Do you know who punished WASH and DAL?
Do you know why they were punished?
They were punished because they didn't collude.
Finally, as to the notion that the NFL approved the various contracts that took excessive advantage of the uncapped year in 2010, it’s critical to consider the broader context. The union already was prepared to pounce on any possible evidence of collusion. If the NFL had decided to reject contracts because teams were taking advantage of rules that the teams had every right to take advantage of, the NFLPA would have sued — and the case would have been bolstered by the fact that, on at least six occasions, the NFL had told the teams not to treat the uncapped year as a salary dump. So the NFL approved the contracts and delayed punishment until a point where the league had leverage to persuade the union to agree to an effort to take action after the fact against teams that refused to collude.
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04-04-2013, 02:09 PM #159
Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
I have been away from the board for a few days, but I got quite a laugh in on this one.
1 Completely deluional poster vs The entire Logical world.
Priceless.
Here you go, here is a simple one for you,. Compare Ellerbe's contract to teh contracts received by David Hawethorne, Curtis Lofton and Stephen Tulloch. Few, if any, people would explain that Ellerbe is the best of the bunch, but he got paid the most BY A LOT. WHY?
SUPPLY
and
DEMAND.
Last year the market was flooded with MLB'ers and few jobs available. This year, quite the opposite, Ellerbe was CLEARLYthe best aailabel young option, and and more then a few teams interested.
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04-04-2013, 02:11 PM #160
Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
If it's not current data, it's worthless.
Great. Cite a 1/$2 signed by a current All Pro. Absent that, can you even name one current All Pro who isn't signed and isn't expected to get a good offer? You brought it up; now (for once) you need to back it up."This space for rent" - Roger Goodell
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Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
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04-04-2013, 02:15 PM #164
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04-04-2013, 02:17 PM #165
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04-04-2013, 02:17 PM #166Veteran Poster
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Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
I am aware of the issue. I was one of the few posters that defended those two teams' positions and stated that the unwritten "agreement" that they apparently 'violated' was indeed collusion. Check the forum archives.
But this has nothing to do with my point on the current issue, which was:
a) these two teams are currently out of the FA market and they are notoriously known as upward drivers to salaries and contracts, and
b) the NFLPA signed on to the penalties, leaving the Cowboys and Redskins without any real recourse in terms of defending themselves (everyone but them were on the other side).
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04-04-2013, 02:18 PM #167
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Re: Player collusion in Seattle?
Yes. If I am delusional than so it Tony Agnone. So are all the agents feeding info to Aaron Wilson. So are all of the agents complaining to the NFLPA.
Priceless.
1) Stars will always get paid. But what if you are not a star? You have to also look at the aggregate.
And you have to look at why Miami is overpaying.
1) They want stadium funding
2) Ireland is in a contract year (hot seat)
Gee did you notice that Miami also introduced a new logo? There are making a concerted effort to get fans to come to Dolphins games to get more tax money for the stadium.
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