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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday



    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    It's not a position someone applies for or asks permission for.

    I have faith that the type of players we have on roster, a few will naturally have the leadership abilities to take on that role when the moment arises. That's how leaders are born.
    Who would be your best guess ??




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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by landspeed View Post
    Thats what, according to the report a few hours ago, Harbaugh wants.
    I am going to reserve judgement until more information comes out. A lot of these guys are no longer on the Ravens and may feel free to talk about what happened. Anyone who knows me knows I have never been a Harbaugh fan, but I will wait to pile on him for these moves.




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    Quote Originally Posted by helloharv View Post
    If we let Ed go and it sure looks like it ---- WHO is the "Locker Room Leader" of our team. I love Joe but he is not that type and I love T Sizzle but he acts like he is 18 some days --- Who calms people down/Fires them up/Talks to the Coaching Staff/Calls Team Meetings/Puts in the extra study time at their house/ etc etc ???
    How do you know Joe isnt that type?

    What about Rice? Ngata? Webb?

    Were Reed, Pollard, Lewis, and Boldin the only guys capable of being vocal leaders in the locker room?

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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by helloharv View Post
    Who would be your best guess ??
    I have no idea. To be honest, it could very well be Joe. There was an interview with Flacco's old coach (either HS or college, can't remember which) which talked about a moment when they were playing in a dome, went down early by a couple scores. Flacco had never really been a loud guy, but he pulled the team together on the sideline and, shouting over the noise (they were the away team in a dome) about how they were going to go win the game and basically pulling everyone's heads together. He said he sees true leadership in Joe, he just doesn't go out of his way to show it when it's not needed or something like that.

    On the D side, too early to tell because I'm sure we'll bring in some vets in FA, but Suggs would be most obvious. saw a LOT of leadership in him when Ray was out this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post

    I didn't read through everything today, who was reporting this? It could be straight up rumor you know...
    It is a straight up rumor that folks are running with.

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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by helloharv View Post
    Suggs?
    Suggs is the last guy that was vocal in the locker room that is still on the team. However, the cap hit the Ravens would take by trading him would be huge this year. I think he is only signed through 2014, so the cap hit the Ravens would take would decrease significantly after the 2013 season. Let's see what they do with Suggs. If they move him along after this upcoming season, it will be very telling.




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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    How do you know Joe isnt that type?

    What about Rice? Ngata? Webb?



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    Because Joe eats McNuggets in McDonalds that's why. There's a lot of weird chemicals in them.

    Do you think Rice is gonna speak up after all this shit went down?





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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    It is a straight up rumor that folks are running with.

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    But we all KNOW it's true...because if you really believe it's not true, you are being delusional.
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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    It is a straight up rumor that folks are running with.

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    Everyone but Pollard is easy to explain. Boldin was cap, Ed Reed is because they want to get younger.

    Not sure about Pollard but I'm sure they didn't cut him for no reason. I doubt he signed his walking papers after that mutiny though, it's probably still related to his play on the field.




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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    Suggs is the last guy that was vocal in the locker room that is still on the team. However, the cap hit the Ravens would take by trading him would be huge this year. I think he is only signed through 2014, so the cap hit the Ravens would take would decrease significantly after the 2013 season. Let's see what they do with Suggs. If they move him along after this upcoming season, it will be very telling.
    I think that's pushing it a bit...Couple people speculated Suggs as a cap casualty BEFORE this all went down.
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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    How do you know Joe isnt that type?

    What about Rice? Ngata? Webb?

    Were Reed, Pollard, Lewis, and Boldin the only guys capable of being vocal leaders in the locker room?

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    I don't know if those guys are leaders or not BUT I have watched every game that those guys have been here --- including me seats 6 rows from the field behind the bench and I can't recall ever seeing those guys you mentioned "leading" like I saw from Ray or Ed or Boldin etc by getting in peoples faces and pulling people together etc




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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by helloharv View Post
    I don't know if those guys are leaders or not BUT I have watched every game that those guys have been here --- including me seats 6 rows from the field behind the bench and I can't recall ever seeing those guys you mentioned "leading" like I saw from Ray or Ed or Boldin etc by getting in peoples faces and pulling people together etc
    Was Ray Lewis doing that from day 1? Was Ed Reed?

    I'm betting...the next great leader on D is going to come from this draft. I just feel like that's what is going on with this draft...drafting the next core of our D.
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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by helloharv View Post
    Suggs?
    I love Suggs, but he's more of the class clown than a leader, but that's what I like about the guy. You need some levity in the locker room. I don't think Harbaugh likes him though, and if it wasn't for the huge cap hit he would probably be gone too.




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    Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I think that's pushing it a bit...Couple people speculated Suggs as a cap casualty BEFORE this all went down.
    They could easily extend Suggs to mitigate the cap hit, just as they could have done with Boldin, and what they will have to do with Flacco after the 2015 season. They don't need to cut Suggs for cap reasons after this upcoming season, unless they want to.




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    Cutting players for cap reasons is just an excuse. Teams keep who they want.


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