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03-13-2013, 09:12 PM #61Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday
How is this relevant? He asked, do you think we win the SB without firing cam? And the obvious answer is no way in hell.
The "mutiny" almost certainly put pressure on the FO to pressure Harbaugh about multiple issues.
I still do not like harbaugh. He was bailed out when he was forced to fire Cam(I dont care what any media report says, that came from the top. No organization is going to say the HC didnt want it to happen).
Then, even though its unconfirmed, he was forced by Ozzie to put McKinnie in the game.
Harbaugh has NEVER been good with personnel decisions, this shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.
I think Harbaugh is a good coach, but is getting way too much credit for this playoff run. Way too many factors at play to give him this overwhelming credit.
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Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday
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Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday
We don't win the Super Bowl without losing Cam.
But I fail to see the connection between the mutiny and Cam.
If anything it would put more trust in the FO that Harbaugh is doing fine because he turned that potential negative of a mutiny and came out smelling like roses. At best, you're speculating that the mutiny and Cam's firing are connected.
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03-13-2013, 09:17 PM #65Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday
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Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday
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03-13-2013, 09:19 PM #69Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday
I was thinking about the same situation. Strahan went through it in America's Game. The leaders voiced their issues to Coughlin and they held meetings every week.
I guess the biggest difference is that it wasn't an open, unprovoked call-out session like what happened here.
But the fact remains that when you are dealing with grown men year in and year out, this stuff is bound to happen.
I can't see how that is a jumping off point to jettison "vocal" players. And if that was really the case, why did the Ravens even bother asking Boldin to take a pay cut? They could have just released him without bothering to try to keep him.
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Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday
Jacobs who has run himself out of town now on both the Giants and the 49ers? He's a good example how? The guy who Coughlin was so annoyed with he hardly got any touches the entire season of that Super Bowl season? If anything, he's a good example of a guy who SHOULD have been gone a long time ago.
Like I said there are ways to address a coach if you think he's wrong. If you want to have a meeting telling the coach things have to change, that's fine. Refusing to practice and challenging a coach's authority in front of the whole team is not the way to do it. That wasn't the way the Giants did it; yet even so, 2 of those guys stuck around and 1 (jacobs) has been run off of two teams now.
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03-13-2013, 09:23 PM #71Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Ravens may not want Ed Reed back, visiting Texans on Thursday
Speculation?
If we dont fire cam cameron, there is no way we make or win the superbowl. That may be "speculation" to you but its fact to just about everyone. Its indisputable really at this point. This teams offense has NEVER been so efficient and consistent as it was after we fired him.
Dont be naive. If you really think Harbaugh actually fired Cam Cameron, you are delusional. Not to mention I have close family who grew up with the Bisciotti family. The firing came from the top.
The only real speculative thing I said was that Ozzie forced Harbaugh to put McKinnie in the game. Its just convenient that McKinnie was put in the game at the same time Cam was fired. This isnt some baseless opinion either, Ive read it on multiple different boards.
And Harbaugh has never been good with personnel decisions.
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