Ed Reed to Houston

**Paintballguy** · 03-19-2013, 07:28 PM

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When asked on NFLN by @AndrewSiciliano what his gut was saying about Ed Reed, #Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti said, "I think we've got him."

**RavensRule21215** · 03-19-2013, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

Russell St. Report ‏@RussellStReport 2m
When asked on NFLN by @AndrewSiciliano what his gut was saying about Ed Reed, #Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti said, "I think we've got him."

Yeah. I just heard that.

**Crabcake** · 03-19-2013, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by RD52

Ok? I still don't understand your point.

It's not like every team in the NFL has the same amount of money left.

The rookie this team brings in probably won't be 65% of what Reed is NOW.

People seem to think that being old means you no longer have value.

Ray Lewis was 37 last year. Some would say he has limitations just like Reed does now.

Are people saying they would let Ray Lewis stay on the bench during the playoffs and let Josh Bynes start?

There is value to Ed Reed. Much more than most safties in the NFL.

The point is we have a budget and the FO has to figure out the allocation of resources that is most conducive to winning another Super Bowl.

If Ed's price tag is above a certain level, then he will not help us win another Super Bowl because the FO wouldn't be able to upgrade somewhere else. Some folks view Ed's value differently than others.

**RD52** · 03-19-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Crabcake

The point is we have a budget and the FO has to figure out the allocation of resources that is most conducive to winning another Super Bowl.

If Ed's price tag is above a certain level, then he will not help us win another Super Bowl because the FO wouldn't be able to upgrade somewhere else. Some folks view Ed's value differently than others.

I understand now. I do value Reed high though.

**Ravenswintitle** · 03-19-2013, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by bt12483

Why would they leak the HOU terms?

I guess you could say if he doesn't want $4M maybe $4.25 would be enough to sway him.

But you also kind of set the market at an expectation of ~$4M, instead of the $6M+ Reed thinks he deserves.

That's what I'm wondering too. Some of these deals still aren't public after the player signed. Who and why is Houston's offer public knowledge and on the espn scroll?

**camdenyard** · 03-19-2013, 11:20 PM

I just saw Steve Bisciotti's interview on NFLN today. When asked about his gut feel on Ed, Steve nodded slightly, turned his head to the side a bit and softly said "we got him".

I don't think he's guessing.

**Bohs&o's** · 03-20-2013, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by camdenyard

I just saw Steve Bisciotti's interview on NFLN today. When asked about his gut feel on Ed, Steve nodded slightly, turned his head to the side a bit and softly said "we got him".

I don't think he's guessing.

Ed, Spears, Canty, and Dumervil/Freeney/Osi/Harrison and i'd say that's one heck of an offseason for us. Throw in a guy like Laurent Robinson and personally i'll feel like our team has improved if Ozzie just has an average draft.

**leachisabeast** · 03-20-2013, 02:52 AM

If its true, the Ravens would have kept all three of its HOFers in Baltimore for their entire careers, amazing.

**JAB1985** · 03-20-2013, 06:57 AM

I think the Houston contract got leaked for only two reasons.

1. Baltimores offer is lower and not budging.
2. Try to get a last minute team involved to raise the going rate.

I dont see why guys have such an issue with this 4m/year. he doesnt even get close to top 10 salary with that and despite all the apparent dislike for Ed not being Ed (possibly the GOAT) hes still every bit a top safety in this league. I think guys have a hard time understanding that going from all world to a top 5 at his position is a downward trend but still extremely productive. Depending on how its structured and guaranteed money, this could be nothing at all as far as cap hit by the time he retires, which i doubt hes getting a huge chunk guaranteed with his neck/age.

per spotrac (average salary)

Eric Berry at Safety $10,000,000
Troy Polamalu at Safety $9,125,000
Dashon Goldson at Safety $8,250,000
Eric Weddle at Safety $8,000,000
Antrel Rolle at Safety $7,400,000
Michael Griffin at Safety $7,000,000
Jairus Byrd at Safety $6,916,000 franchise tag
Antoine Bethea at Safety $6,750,000
Tyvon Branch at Safety $6,650,000
Roman Harper $6,250,000

I honestly see 4 guys on that list that id take over Reed right now and one of those im pretty much even with. Even when saying that, im considering age as a factor. Reed isnt as bad as some are making him out to be even if he isnt as good as he once was. and 4m/year is a steal for what he offers.

**Ravenboy2003** · 03-20-2013, 07:16 AM

Troy P's making $9 million this season? Ouch. Talk about overpaying a player on the severe downslope of his career.

**JAB1985** · 03-20-2013, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003

Troy P's making $9 million this season? Ouch. Talk about overpaying a player on the severe downslope of his career.

those are average salaries... his cap hit is 10.137m this year (7.5m base).

**HKusp** · 03-20-2013, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by JAB1985

I think the Houston contract got leaked for only two reasons.

1. Baltimores offer is lower and not budging.
2. Try to get a last minute team involved to raise the going rate.

I dont see why guys have such an issue with this 4m/year. he doesnt even get close to top 10 salary with that and despite all the apparent dislike for Ed not being Ed (possibly the GOAT) hes still every bit a top safety in this league. I think guys have a hard time understanding that going from all world to a top 5 at his position is a downward trend but still extremely productive. Depending on how its structured and guaranteed money, this could be nothing at all as far as cap hit by the time he retires, which i doubt hes getting a huge chunk guaranteed with his neck/age.

per spotrac (average salary)

I honestly see 4 guys on that list that id take over Reed right now and one of those im pretty much even with. Even when saying that, im considering age as a factor. Reed isnt as bad as some are making him out to be even if he isnt as good as he once was. and 4m/year is a steal for what he offers.

I agree with you. If Ed plays somewhere else this season, people around here are going to see exactly what Ed was still bringing to the table last season. There are too many people here that think Ed is the only FS that doesn't tackle well. His coverage skills are still very very good and his instincts are still the best. He is worth 4 million a year. He's a bargain at that rate.