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Re: Boldin is Still Counting Against the Ravens Cap for $7.5 Million
So you think the Ravens would renig on the deal and keep Boldin?
I see what you are saying, but IMHO, if we offered a player more than any other team after said player shopped his services around for days, waiting a week is not a big deal IMHO. There is zero chance Boldin failing his physical would change that. The Ravens would simply release him immediately. The drawback IMHO would only be the Ravens doing something unprecedented and just pulling the offer because they want to...not because Boldin failed his physical.
I guess my point is whether he passes or fails his physical does not matter at all. If he passes he's gone. If he fails, he's gone. Either way he's gone...so they wouldn't be waiting just to find out if he passed.
Half these players are signing their deals 1-2-3 days after reaching an agreement anyway so it's not like once they come to an agreement, they are immediately signing.Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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Re: Boldin is Still Counting Against the Ravens Cap for $7.5 Million
Renege.
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Re: Boldin is Still Counting Against the Ravens Cap for $7.5 Million
I don't think an agent would think the Ravens would renig either...so I don't see the harm. Especially when some players are already waiting 2-3 days to sign. I know our wait would be longer, but if some are already ready to wait days, what's another couple days.
Agreements are always made in good faith. I would think our FO has built up enough trust with agents that they wouldn't just arbitrarily pull an offer just because they changed their mind.Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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03-18-2013, 10:10 AM #41On The Practice Squad
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Re: Boldin is Still Counting Against the Ravens Cap for $7.5 Million
Renege.
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03-18-2013, 10:37 AM #42
Re: Boldin is Still Counting Against the Ravens Cap for $7.5 Million
Personally, I think the PFT story about the trade not being finalized is bunk (although, I can't really prove it).
First, the trade showed up on the NFL's official transaction report on 3/12.
Both teams have announced the deal.
Boldin is also no longer showing up for the Ravens, but is showing up for the 49ers on the "public access" part of the NFLPA site (although, I'd need to see the "private access" portion to verify the accuracy of that). Lastly, Boldin shows up on the 49ers roster on the 49ers site and NFL.com.
So, I don't think it really matters whether he's taken his physical yet. If he hasn't and fails, then I believe the 49ers have the right to rescind the trade, but this isn't like a FA signing, IMO, where the physical has to take place before it's official.
So, I honest think he's been off of the Ravens books since 3/12.
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03-18-2013, 11:32 AM #43Veteran Poster
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Re: Boldin is Still Counting Against the Ravens Cap for $7.5 Million
This goes back to my question about the penalties for going/being over the cap (passively, as I realize you cannot get a contract approved by the league that puts you over).
If we sign players assuming Boldin's cap hit is gone for us to the point where we have say, $2M in cap space, then he fails a physical and the 49ers rescind, what happens? We get a certain time period to comply with the cap? 24 hrs? The league arbitrarily declares Boldin as a FA?
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03-18-2013, 11:40 AM #44
Re: Boldin is Still Counting Against the Ravens Cap for $7.5 Million
Yes, there is a 24- or 48 hour period during which the team has the time to get Cap compliant.
It's sort of akin to when a player - Brett Favre - comes out of retirement. Once the player files to be reinstated, he needs to fit under the team's Cap, assuming they retained his rights. So, the team has to make a decision to either release him or fit him under their Cap and make whatever moves are necessary.
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03-18-2013, 11:42 AM #45Veteran Poster
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03-18-2013, 11:46 AM #46iggyman555 Guest
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03-18-2013, 12:21 PM #48Veteran Poster
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Re: Boldin is Still Counting Against the Ravens Cap for $7.5 Million
Maybe, but as far as that goes, any traded player could do that to nix any trade.
But there isn't much reason for him to do that. His 2013 salary is actually pretty high. I also am not sure how easy it would be to fail on purpose. It is really the 49ers who are the ones deciding whether he passes or fails. And I assume it includes a lot of imaging, etc, more than simply seeing if he is "in shape."
But you bring up an interesting point.
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