Free Agent & Other Player Moves from Around the NFL

**JAB1985** · 07-08-2013, 02:11 PM

he would have saw more in FA that much is for sure.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 07-08-2013, 02:24 PM

Cruz will be a PB player for most of the remainder of this decade, so congrats to PIT for giving pretty much the exact same (way overpriced at the time and still is today) deal for Antonio "f-in" Brown.

Gee...which guy would any sane GM, coach or fan rather have?

**Ravenswintitle** · 07-08-2013, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by JAB1985

he would have saw more in FA that much is for sure.

I still don't understand why some team didn't pony up the first round pick and go get him. He would've been worth a lower pick plus the contract

**BigPlayReceiver** · 07-08-2013, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Nice.

Good for him. What a great success story...UDFA out of a small school...now one of the top receivers in the league.

This contract will be quite relevant for the Ravens when negotiating with Torrey Smith.

This frightens me a bit, which of course, doesn't mean that you are wrong by any stretch.

I like Torrey a lot, but he needs considerable improvement in both his release and routes before his value rises within sniffing distance of Cruz's. That's IMO WRT value, but it's very evident via analysis (that is, "not IMO") when watching each man on tape. Even comparing Torrey vs. other 2nd tier WRs, his needed improvements are clear.

At the least, I hope that Caldwell has obliterated that "round-off routes" bullisht from his schemes.

**GOTA** · 07-08-2013, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

I still don't understand why some team didn't pony up the first round pick and go get him. He would've been worth a lower pick plus the contract

I agree. The Patriots for example were picking at the bottom of the round anyway. They certainly have a big need for a player like Cruz. He even went to UMass. I don't know why they didn't try and make that move.

**JAB1985** · 07-08-2013, 03:41 PM

knowing what his contract is now, there really wasnt much reason not to. If he was demanding Mike Wallace money (again, how did he get paid that much?), i can see not wanting to fork over a pick and the loot, but under 9m/year for a great young WR seems like a rarity in todays NFL. some GMs just really value their 1st rounders.

All i know is Cruz at 9ish is a helluva better deal than wallace at 12.

**wickedsolo** · 07-09-2013, 09:06 AM

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-ph...s-could-be-cut

Riley Cooper from the Eagles could possibly be cut according to this Philly sports writer.

Wouldn't mind giving him a look-see if he does wind up a FA.

**JAB1985** · 07-09-2013, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-ph...s-could-be-cut

Riley Cooper from the Eagles could possibly be cut according to this Philly sports writer.

Wouldn't mind giving him a look-see if he does wind up a FA.

two of my buddies are hardcore eagles fans and he and avant are the only WRs they had confidence in. I think were set at WR and im not sure hes an upgrade over our own young players but i wouldnt be upset about it if they brought him in either.

**Ravenswintitle** · 07-10-2013, 11:41 AM

Lions extend Stafford with a 3 year $53M deal of which $43M is guaranteed. Hope he stays on the field

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...135635469.html

**GOTA** · 07-10-2013, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Lions extend Stafford with a 3 year $53M deal of which $43M is guaranteed. Hope he stays on the field

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...135635469.html

Interesting that they went with the short deal instead of the more common long term deal with a year 4 balloon. Everyone knows that the Flacco type deals have to get redone anyway. It looks like the Lions and Stafford decided to go away from the fake averages and create a deal that will actually be completed.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 07-10-2013, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Lions extend Stafford with a 3 year $53M deal of which $43M is guaranteed. Hope he stays on the field

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...135635469.html

He's 180 degrees out from Joe.
Stafford is good for fantasy franchises, but not real ones.
While DET has many shortcomings and question marks, IIRC, Stafford has 1 career win vs. a team with a winning record.

Having said that, DET clears some cap with this deal, but they probably feel strapped to Stafford with no other realistic option on the horizon.

**Paintballguy** · 07-10-2013, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

He's 180 degrees out from Joe.
Stafford is good for fantasy franchises, but not real ones.
While DET has many shortcomings and question marks, IIRC, Stafford has 1 career win vs. a team with a winning record.

Having said that, DET clears some cap with this deal, but they probably feel strapped to Stafford with no other realistic option on the horizon.

I wouldn't even say Stafford is a good fantasy QB.

During the Lions 8 game losing stretch to close out last season, Stafford threw 12 tds 11 ints with a 74 Qb rating.