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    If someone didn't flunk a test, why are they being retested?
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    If someone didn't flunk a test, why are they being retested?
    Shefter confirmed on twitter that it was a medical recheck on his foot.

    I don't think there is/was anything to the drug test stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Shefter confirmed on twitter that it was a medical recheck on his foot.

    I don't think there is/was anything to the drug test stuff


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    I'd sue a mfer. This horseshit has got to stop.
    These half-baked, media-monkeys need to feel the pain of disparaging a man's character based upon spectulative bits of information.
    ...if this foot re-examination matter turns out to be true, of course.
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    And the Patterson smearing campaign is in full effect.

    Just like politics!!


    Scouts from 10 different teams have reportedly expressed reservations regarding Tennessee WR Cordarrelle Patterson's mental acuity.
    It's a fancy way of saying the scouts don't think Patterson is smart. He reportedly wasn't impressive during team interviews at the Combine and scored an 11 on the 50-question Wonderlic test. "Toward the end of the year, they started to go away from running Patterson down the field on routes and gave him the ball on reverses and screens, even as a halfback at times," an AFC personnel director said. "That starts to put a question mark in your head. Why?"
    from rotoworld

    Couple this with the rumors that Mark Harrison and Patterson were the guys who trashed the combine room. Though there seems to be more support for Harrison than there is for Patterson, and no one can even confirm those two were roommates.

    I'd almost take it as a compliment to be smeared. If you suck, no one would go to the effort of smearing you because you wouldn't even matter.




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    ^^
    It's a fancy way of saying the scouts don't think Patterson is smart. He reportedly wasn't impressive during team interviews at the Combine and scored an 11 on the 50-question Wonderlic test
    FYI AJ Green scored a 10.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    And the Patterson smearing campaign is in full effect.

    Just like politics!!

    from rotoworld

    Couple this with the rumors that Mark Harrison and Patterson were the guys who trashed the combine room. Though there seems to be more support for Harrison than there is for Patterson, and no one can even confirm those two were roommates.

    I'd almost take it as a compliment to be smeared. If you suck, no one would go to the effort of smearing you because you wouldn't even matter.

    I get the tongue-in-cheek, but in Allen's case (and yes, I know the injury is related to his stock fall too), it's costing him $$$...even though there's no evidence that he's done anything crooked.
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    Wonderlic Scores:
    Austin's test score was even lower at 7, but the majority of scouts expect him to learn a playbook without a major hitch.

    "He's not a quick study and it will take him a little time," another personnel director said. "He will work at it. He cares greatly about it."

    Justin Hunter, Patterson's teammate, scored just 12, but scouts consider him less of a risk mentally.
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    Meanwhile, intelligence is deemed a plus for Keenan Allen (19) and Robert Woods (23), the next-best receivers behind Patterson and Austin.

    "Allen and Woods just know how to play," an NFC personnel director said. "You throw them in, they're going to run the right route, get open and catch the ball.

    "You can run fast 40s and be this and that, but if you don't know how to play it just kind of goes out the window."
    More interesting tidbits:
    The Journal Sentinel asked 16 personnel people to list their top five wide receivers and top four tight ends. At wide receiver, a first-place vote was worth five points, a second was worth four and so on.

    Patterson (seven firsts) led with 62 points, followed by Austin, 60 (six firsts); Allen, 40 (one first); Woods, 25; DeAndre Hopkins, 24 (one first); Hunter, 16; Terrance Williams, five; and Stedman Bailey and Quinton Patton, each four.

    At tight end, Tyler Eifert led the way with 63 points (15 firsts), followed by Zach Ertz, 40 (one first); Gavin Escobar, 22; Travis Kelce, 14; Vance McDonald and Jordan Reed, eight; Nick Kasa and Mychal Rivera, two; and Chris Gragg, one.
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/tenne...203524771.html




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    I'd like Patterson as a pick at 62, nothing more, nothing less. The guy is a very very high risk pick.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    I get the tongue-in-cheek, but in Allen's case (and yes, I know the injury is related to his stock fall too), it's costing him $$$...even though there's no evidence that he's done anything crooked.
    Happens to someone every year. No one says it is fair.




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    I would take Woods in the first. Just my preference. I think he has the chance to be a 100 catch player even though this offense isn't really built that way (what am I saying, that could change this year). Him, Allen, or Hopkins. I think the Pats may take Woods though depending on who is available. Just a hunch.

    Also it was Hopkins in the hotel room fiasco and not Patterson. Apparently he is already denying any involvement in this affair.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbirds80 View Post
    I would take Woods in the first. Just my preference. I think he has the chance to be a 100 catch player even though this offense isn't really built that way (what am I saying, that could change this year). Him, Allen, or Hopkins. I think the Pats may take Woods though depending on who is available. Just a hunch.

    Also it was Hopkins in the hotel room fiasco and not Patterson. Apparently he is already denying any involvement in this affair.
    I wouldn't be upset if they took Woods in the first.

    However, I think that I'd rather seem them target Matt Elam or Jon Cyprien.
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    Woods in the 1st would make me sad. Not a fan of his release nor YAC. He's very good in between though.

    Remember, we know that Torrey Smith is the Ravens' benchmark for "1st round grade" at the position. Different Draft, I know, but that's the best info we got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Woods in the 1st would make me sad. Not a fan of his release nor YAC. He's very good in between though.

    Remember, we know that Torrey Smith is the Ravens' benchmark for "1st round grade" at the position. Different Draft, I know, but that's the best info we got.
    To be a 1st round receiver IMO you either have to 1) have one potentially game-breaking trait that an offense can "orbit" around (i.e. Torrey Smith's deep speed, Tavon Austin's elusiveness, etc.) or 2) have an extremely competent all-around game with no real flaws and frequent moments of dominance (i.e. guys like Hakeem Nicks, Dez Bryant, Roddy White, etc.) When you have BOTH of those things, that's a top-5 or top-10 caliber receiver like AJ Green, Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, etc.

    Woods to me has neither. He doesn't have one great trait and he has a lot of flaws. I don't see him being dominant in the NFL. The guys I see fitting into the 1st round mold are Tavon Austin (game-breaking elusiveness), DeAndre Hopkins (complete total game), Justin Hunter (potentially game-breaking size/speed/body control a la Randy Moss), Cordarelle Patterson (game-breaking YAC).

    Woods is a solid, competent #2 guy who will need a year or so to climb a depth chart. You can go and get a similar prospect at a better value in a later round.




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    That's a great break down bmore. I would put Hopkins and Allen in the Hakeem Nicks/Roddy White category. I wouldn't put anyone this year in the AJ Green league. Patterson is an interesting prospect, but he's more along the lines of a Torrey Smith IMO, and Tavon Austin is a Percy Harvin type prospect which is obvious.

    Justin Hunter is an interesting player, because if he was a polished receiver, you could easily put him in the Julio Jones league with that freakish size and speed, but he's instead a developmental player with huge upside, could be someone to look at, at 62.




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    He might not be the perfect specimen, but he is a football player. You hear that from the Ravens all the time in who they look for. I just think that he would be a nice addition to our team.




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