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  1. #31

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    The problem with this is that there is no one proven to step into Boldin's role in the offense. Doss seems to be assumed to be the guy but he has not done jack to show he can. If you are going to pay your QB top dollar not only do you need a LT but you need a good receiving core with trusted weapons. Flacco does not immediately connect with receivers. It took Boldin a few years and a new offensive coordinator to gain Flacco's trust that he would make the tough catches in coverage. Jacoby has bad hands and everyone loves to say Doss has the best hands, but then what happened in the Colts game? 2 drops. I'm afraid this would be a serious blow to a possible repeat.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Have folks forgotten about Heap or Mason?

    This isn't a personal decision. It's a business one, one that has always kept this team in the playoff hunt.

    I'd hate to see him go just as much as everyone, but its a huge cap number and I'd hate more we hold on to big contracts for sentimental reasons rather than doing what's best for the team as a whole.

    Lets wait and see how this plays out.
    BUT I think we can all agree Heap and Mason were more or less done. Their careers fizzled out after they left, and Heap was already becoming less effective.

    Boldin has years left in him clearly. Losing him would be a much bigger drop in talent on the team than replacing Heap with Pitta and Mason with Smith/Jones.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    There's been rumors he's been rethinking this statement as of late.
    I never believed him in the first place. I thought it was either posturing or him conveying to the Ravens he'd be interested in a cap friendlier extension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    BUT I think we can all agree Heap and Mason were more or less done. Their careers fizzled out after they left, and Heap was already becoming less effective.

    Boldin has years left in him clearly. Losing him would be a much bigger drop in talent on the team than replacing Heap with Pitta and Mason with Smith/Jones.
    Heap, yes.

    But this board went nuclear when Mason was booted. And nobody knew he was done until the following season.

    Every year it's the same thing. Player X, who is either a fan favorite and has a high cap hit, gets let go and fans explode, all the while those same fans forget that year after year we are able to reload and remain in the hunt.

    I want Q back. Badly. But not at the expense of handcuffing the team and certainly not for sentimental reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    Doesn't sound like it's a restructure. It's asking him to take a pay cut. Two separate things.
    That may just be bargaining posturing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Have folks forgotten about Heap or Mason?

    This isn't a personal decision. It's a business one, one that has always kept this team in the playoff hunt.

    I'd hate to see him go just as much as everyone, but its a huge cap number and I'd hate more we hold on to big contracts for sentimental reasons rather than doing what's best for the team as a whole.

    Lets wait and see how this plays out.
    Gotta make room for Jake Long. ;-)

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  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenMadness View Post
    I was okay with Heap going... DMase was a sentimental favorite somewhat like Q...

    Doss isnt ready and LaQuan & D.Reed cant replace Q..... we roll with Smith and future DWTS champ JJ?
    Let's not forget Pitta could be gone too..

    I trust Ozzie, but I also panic a bit
    Fans were panicking back then, too. Very few had confidence that Torrey Smith, Denis Pitta, and Ed Dickson could replace Mason's and Heap's production. But the man in the corner office in Owings Mills knows what he's doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Have folks forgotten about Heap or Mason?

    This isn't a personal decision. It's a business one, one that has always kept this team in the playoff hunt.

    I'd hate to see him go just as much as everyone, but its a huge cap number and I'd hate more we hold on to big contracts for sentimental reasons rather than doing what's best for the team as a whole.

    Lets wait and see how this plays out.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Perfectly reasonable and most likely Ozzie's goal.

    It's all about the cap, not past accomplishments at this point.

    Shitty position for sure but its decisions like this that separates the good franchises from the bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Teams that pay players on past performance are not in the playoffs every year.

    Asking him to restructure is perfectly reasonable at this point.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    So no need to panic just yet basically.
    HoustonRaven is spot on.




  8. #38

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    Keep in mind the Ravens do have cap space so this move won't be a desperation move to clear up space but a move to get more which makes me think we may make a move on another teams FA or 2. If we cut leach as well that opens up another 3. Elerbie's deal wont be a big hit at all nor would a potential deal with Reed.

    I think this is about getting younger and signing another teams FA or 2.

    BTW- Kruger and williams are gone this space is not for them. We drafted Upshaw for a reason and have depth at CB.




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    Don't.
    Panic.
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    Re: Boldin

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Gotta make room for Jake Long. ;-)

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    They're 12 something under the cap already, and whatever deal they work out with Ellerbe I doubt will cost more than $5 mil towards 2013's cap, so you have to wonder what sorts of plans Ozzie has with all that cabbage.
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  11. #41

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    Another thing to keep in mind, we did not assign RFA tenders yet in the past that would have been done days ago. I think there are some big plans in the works. Also, remember we have quite a few extra draft picks as well that can be traded as we will get 4 Comp picks most likley one in each of the 3rd and 4th rounds.




  12. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenMadness View Post
    I was okay with Heap going... DMase was a sentimental favorite somewhat like Q...

    Doss isnt ready and LaQuan & D.Reed cant replace Q..... we roll with Smith and future DWTS champ JJ?
    Let's not forget Pitta could be gone too..

    I trust Ozzie, but I also panic a bit
    There is absolutely no chance Pitta is on another team next year. Slow your roll with the sky is falling stuff.

    Would love to keep Q, but maybe this leads to Tavon.




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    Re: Boldin

    Quote Originally Posted by Miz89 View Post
    Would love to keep Q, but maybe this leads to Tavon.
    Why would you cut him to do that? We'd have to move up in the draft to get Tavon
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    Re: Boldin

    Quote Originally Posted by Miz89 View Post
    There is absolutely no chance Pitta is on another team next year. Slow your roll with the sky is falling stuff.

    Would love to keep Q, but maybe this leads to Tavon.
    More like DeAndre Hopkins IMHO.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscull View Post

    More like DeAndre Hopkins IMHO.
    Yes please.

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