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    Re: RSR Mock Draft 2.0 - Discussion Thread



    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    Should have worded it better. Not a 'wasted pick', but I don't think drafting a RT with the 1st overall pick is the best decision
    Perspective is everything in this instance.

    Yes, Joeckel would probably be a RT this season. Branden Albert has made it quite clear that he plans on being a LT and that's that. If the Chiefs were to move him to the right side, they would potentially have a major locker room/attitude issue on their hands and I don't think that is something Andy Reid wants in his first season with KC.

    However, after this season, I think they will know enough about Joeckel to determine whether or not he can be their LT for the future, or if they need to keep Albert. I can't see any way why they would need to keep Albert over Joeckel in 2014 to play LT. So, in that regard I think Joeckel is the best option for them. If - and only if - because their QB situation (even with Alex Smith) is going to be shaky for a few seasons. They might as well solidify their OL while they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscull View Post
    Titans looking to trade back... PM for details.
    Are we doing trades?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Are we doing trades?
    As long as we can have a way to assess the value I'm fine with it
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    Re: RSR Mock Draft 2.0 - Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Are we doing trades?
    Idk, I figured we could. If not, not a big deal.




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    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post

    As long as we can have a way to assess the value I'm fine with it
    So basically trades are ok as long as it is equivalent value...i.e. no trading a top 10 pick in round 1 for a 5th rounder and a 6-pack of rolling rock.

    I would also like to suggest no trades with yourself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    So basically trades are ok as long as it is equivalent value...i.e. no trading a top 10 pick in round 1 for a 5th rounder and a 6-pack of rolling rock.

    I would also like to suggest no trades with yourself...

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    We could agree to go off the points system (can't remember the name). It's just a systematic way of doing it
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    I picked Dee Milliner for Jax because of a number of reasons, and you may frown at choosing a CB that high.

    This draft class is not very top heavy, and Jax had the one of the worst core of CBs in the league last season. They need serious help back there, and Gus as we all know loves his big physical corners which is what Milliner is. IMO Milliner is the best player in this draft class, so it also counts as BPA.




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    Re: RSR Mock Draft 2.0 - Discussion Thread

    I am confident trades can work in this one with the guys we have running it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I picked Dee Milliner for Jax because of a number of reasons, and you may frown at choosing a CB that high.

    This draft class is not very top heavy, and Jax had the one of the worst core of CBs in the league last season. They need serious help back there, and Gus as we all know loves his big physical corners which is what Milliner is. IMO Milliner is the best player in this draft class, so it also counts as BPA.
    Dee Milliner is a pretty good pick. I would say it's between Milliner and Joeckel for the Jags. Shariff Floyd was probably #1 on their big board but he's gone, so either of those two make sense. If they didn't have Eugene Monroe playing at a pretty high level at LT Joeckel would be a no-brainer, and he could still be an option as Monroe is a FA in 2014.

    The Jaguars have a really bad roster. They have no CBs at all, their OL is garbage outside of Monroe, they have no QB, and they had the least sacks in the NFL last year. What a miserable team.




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    Re: RSR Mock Draft 2.0 - Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    Dee Milliner is a pretty good pick. I would say it's between Milliner and Joeckel for the Jags. Shariff Floyd was probably #1 on their big board but he's gone, so either of those two make sense. If they didn't have Eugene Monroe playing at a pretty high level at LT Joeckel would be a no-brainer, and he could still be an option as Monroe is a FA in 2014.

    The Jaguars have a really bad roster. They have no CBs at all, their OL is garbage outside of Monroe, they have no QB, and they had the least sacks in the NFL last year. What a miserable team.
    They don't really have any edge rushers either. At least the Jags can pretty much go into a total "BPA" philosophy though, almost every position on that team needs upgrading. I would have traded MJD last offseason too, they would have got a 2nd and a 4th rounder for him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    Love the player, but don't like the pick, at least not as the team is currently constructed.

    Floyd is an elite player but not a good fit for the 3-4. As a 3-4 end his speed and penetration ability are going to be wasted. He needs to be a 4-3 under tackle who splits the gap and rushes the passer.

    Taking a really talented player and jamming him into a bad scheme fit is EXACTLY what the Chiefs did a few years back with Glenn Dorsey. Elite pass-rushing 3-tech at LSU, drafted by the Chiefs and made into a 5-tech end, and all his talent and potential have pretty much been wasted. Same thing would happen to Floyd.

    Now, if you were the Chiefs GM and you were going to move to a 4-3... I would love the move. Dontari Poe and Floyd at DT, Hali and Justin Houston at DE, Derrick Johnson at MLB... you'd need 2 new OLBs but that's a very talented defense on paper.
    You have valid points and it's something i thought about before making the pick. I feel like Floyd is a better prospect then Dorsey was coming out, i also feel like there is more nickel and passing situations to allow him opportunities to one gap penetrate. Look at a guy like JJ Watt, if you have the talent DC's will move you around and give you opportunities to make an impact, i think it gives them some flexibility and gives their D another impact player in the front 7 to take some of the load off Hali and Houston as far as rushing the passer, and making plays versus the run in the backfield.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I picked Dee Milliner for Jax because of a number of reasons, and you may frown at choosing a CB that high.

    This draft class is not very top heavy, and Jax had the one of the worst core of CBs in the league last season. They need serious help back there, and Gus as we all know loves his big physical corners which is what Milliner is. IMO Milliner is the best player in this draft class, so it also counts as BPA.
    Love this pick, gives them a legit #1 corner and a scheme fit.




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    Re: RSR Mock Draft 2.0 - Discussion Thread

    Any chance people can only post the actual picks in the draft thread? And any other comments in here, just would help keep it clean and easy to follow.




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    Shocker pick for the Raiders! I like it though, the Raiders need to rebuild and they have a young core of offensive talent with Smith, Denarius Moore, McFadden, and Veldheer. If Wicked hadn't have taken Geno Smith at #3 I would have been all over him for Arizona at #7. Pretty disappointed!




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    Bold pick Wicked, and i like it! I think because of the immediate success some of these rookie QB's have had it's kind of put an unfair amount of criticism on Geno. Sure he isnt Luck, RG3, etc. and he wont be ready to play right away but with the right coaching i think he can be a franchise caliber QB in a couple years.




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