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03-05-2013, 02:28 PM #13
Our future slot WR could be drafted in the 5th round: Chad Bumphis
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03-05-2013, 03:16 PM #14Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
You can't draft strictly for needs or level of priority. That is something the Ravens and all other well-constructed teams don't do. If there is an ILB on the board at #32 that you rate as your best player available, then you take him and you've satisfied a need, but you didn't take him because ILB was your biggest need. That's just a happy coincidence.
But what if you're sitting at #32 and none of the top 5 players available on your board are ILBs? What you DON'T do is take the 6th best player available because he's an ILB and you need one. You take the best player available who makes sense--which is pretty much anyone who's not a quarterback or running back. What I'm saying is that on MY big board, only 1 ILB is truly worth a 1st round pick: Alec Ogletree. I would much rather have DeAndre Hopkins, Datone Jones, or Matt Elam (I have each rated in the top 25 or so) than Manti Te'o or Kevin Minter (each are closer to around the #50 mark.)
If you do that with every pick you've done the best job possible of maximizing the overall talent level of your team. Sure, you might still have a hole or two on your roster walking away from draft day, but it's more important to get more talented than it is to fill all your needs with inferior players. I don't know what Ozzie's big board looks like but there's a pretty good possibility that his big board looks like mine, which means do NOT be surprised to see a non-ILB in the 1st.
That might be, and I do think it's worth noting how much Joe looked toward Doss when he did happen to be on the field, so something is happening there in practice that Joe likes. I'm not saying he's never going to be a contributor but I just don't see starting-caliber talent there. He struggles to catch the ball and is very soft, no physicality or toughness whatsoever. He's definitely the kind of player that might look good in practice when he's not getting hit but at this point he's not the kind of guy that I envision being more than a #4 type of receiver.
Also, I don't Doss stole any snaps from Jacoby, I think they just didn't want to overwork the guy who was lighting it up on returns. Being a #3 WR in the NFL nowadays is almost like being a starter, and that's just too many snaps for a guy who's also the return specialist.
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03-05-2013, 03:24 PM #15Legendary RSR Poster
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03-05-2013, 03:26 PM #16
Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
No ... hell no!
Subject to our team's FA losses and limited cap space for new FAs, there could be a need for replacing starters on OL, OLB, ILB, TE.
There's no way a rookie would crack the line-up. At best, compete for #4 with Doss, along with Thompson, La Quan, Steeter, David Reed. How many WRs were on the 2012 roster or taxi squad -- 6 or 7? Why waste a draft pick when we have lots of adequate backups to fight for the #4 position. I wouldn't draft a WR unless someone of great value dropped into our laps.In a 2003 BBC poll that asked Brits to name the "Greatest American Ever", Mr. T came in fourth, behind ML King (3rd), Abe Lincoln (2nd) and Homer Simpson (1st).
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03-05-2013, 03:28 PM #17
Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
I'd rather take one ofthe many NT's that have borderline 1st round gades then a WR not named Tavon though...
Jesse Williams, Sylvester Williams, John Jenkins, etc. Need and value. I have Tavon ranked clearly ahead of this group, and as such couldn't pass on hm i he were inexplicably there, but need is absolutely a concern when setting up ones big board. Consider need the tiebreaker...
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03-05-2013, 03:45 PM #18Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
That's a good option if you can find a trading partner, but listen... there's going to be a really good player at #32. if Ozzie takes that player, and he's not an ILB... we're going to be okay. The need can be addressed later in the draft, in free agency, or through trades. You have to understand Ozzie's style in the draft. He's going to sit there and watch 31 other FOs panic and grab inferior prospects because of exactly the mentality you're buying into. Then, when his card comes up at 32, there's going to be a few guys sitting there in the green room that should have gone 10 picks ago, and he's going to have his choice of them.
Now, LAST year Ozzie caught a HUGE break. There were so many guys that carried 1st round grades sitting there at 29 that moving back to 35 was a total no-brainer (we know that they liked at least 4 guys enough to take them at 29, one of which was Upshaw who they couldn't believe they got at 35). If that happens again this year, it's fantastic, but again the name on the card is not going to simply be whatever ILB is highest on the board who's available. It's going to be the best overall player. If it isn't an ILB we'll be fine.
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03-05-2013, 04:02 PM #19Veteran Poster
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Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
This is a good summary. The WR position has me somewhat perplexed. Based on what we get to see it looks as though it is Torrey Smith and nothing special behind him. That being said I would love to know what Caldwell's feelings are on the young guys. I am not going to write of Doss because he had some drops in limited action. The offense was not conducive to wr success under Cameron. They were in two wr sets majority of the time. The routes were simplistic. With more playing time and a more creative offense do they step it up? That is the question. I am guessing Caldwell has a pretty good idea and we will know more after the draft.
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Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
"Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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03-05-2013, 04:54 PM #21
Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
"The Ravens are not taking Jimmy Smith at 26!" -- Me, the day before the 2011 Draft
"On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the 2015 Draft
Missed it by That Much: The story of 'Get Smart' and the modern day Baltimore Ravens
@BigPlayReceiver
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Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
If Q goes...we have Torrey, Jacoby and a bunch of unproven players ranging from years 1-3.
Is Torrey a #1? The most receptions he has had is 50.
Jacoby is not a #2.
So either the Ravens have faith that Doss, Thompson or Streeter are going to make strides, or have other plans via FA or the draft.
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Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?
Torrey's status as a #1 is not defined by statistics. It's defined by the respect defenses show him. They are going to play him as if he is a #1. That's all that matters.
For the record, they were going to draft Tavon Austin anyway:D, This just makes more room for him to get on the field, inadvertently."Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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