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    Re: All Things Draft:



    I like Hankins or Jenkins for the 1st pick at DT/NT. If the heavens aligned meaning every team took the "duh" pill before the draft, I would love Shariff Floyd, but no chance there.

    Outside of that position, I could see Jarvis Jones scaring a lot of teams off, but I see the Steelers taking him for some reason.

    Tavon Austin would be a good hometown pick and would be a steal at 32, but someone jumps up before he would get to our slot.

    Tackles I think will not be picked at #32. We go into FA before we pick up a rookie tackle to start IMO unless it's one of the top three Joekel, Fischer, or Lane Johnson. I think Fluker is a RT in the league.

    This is the toughest draft ever in my eyes and I think that a lot of teams screw their drafts, but not my Ravens. This draft is so muddied with talent, but also very flawed prospects. Thank heavens we don't need a QB.




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    With my eyes Clemson's Hopkins physically looks like Houshmandzadeh.
    Hopkins hands >> Housh's (who was mostly a body catcher)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    With my eyes Clemson's Hopkins physically looks like Houshmandzadeh.
    Hopkins hands >> Housh's (who was mostly a body catcher)
    Well, at one point TJ Whosyourmama was one of the best possession receivers in the NFL. I actually think he made Chad Johnson better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    With my eyes Clemson's Hopkins physically looks like Houshmandzadeh.
    Hopkins hands >> Housh's (who was mostly a body catcher)
    When Doss was coming out of college I evaluated him as a similar prospect to Houshmandzadeh. Taller, long-limbed, thin receivers with sub-par straight-line speed and underwhelming "quicks" but good body control and catching radius to serve as a possession receiver. At their best, both of them can find the hole in the zone, make the catch, and get a little YAC.

    I think Hopkins is a much better prospect than either of them and more Roddy White than TJ. I was surprised by his 214lbs weight-in at the Combine--that's an extremely solid build for a 6'1 WR, but he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. He plays faster than his 4.57 on tape.

    The Ravens need to walk away from this draft with a legit outside-the-numbers receiver, unless they feel a miracle can happen and Streeter is going to become that guy (I wouldn't bet on it.)




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post

    When Doss was coming out of college I evaluated him as a similar prospect to Houshmandzadeh. Taller, long-limbed, thin receivers with sub-par straight-line speed and underwhelming "quicks" but good body control and catching radius to serve as a possession receiver. At their best, both of them can find the hole in the zone, make the catch, and get a little YAC.

    I think Hopkins is a much better prospect than either of them and more Roddy White than TJ. I was surprised by his 214lbs weight-in at the Combine--that's an extremely solid build for a 6'1 WR, but he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. He plays faster than his 4.57 on tape.

    The Ravens need to walk away from this draft with a legit outside-the-numbers receiver, unless they feel a miracle can happen and Streeter is going to become that guy (I wouldn't bet on it.)
    Agreed that he is more of a deep threat than Housh ever was.

    I really think Hakeem Nicks is a good comparison. Similar build, great hands, good route runner, tough to bring down, and deceptive quickness.

    Justin Hunter might be that guy. I also like Da'Rick Rogers a lot. He isn't a speedster, but his size and separation ability make him intriguing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Well, at one point TJ Whosyourmama was one of the best possession receivers in the NFL. I actually think he made Chad Johnson better.

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    I agree with both. I wasn't disparaging Hopkins, btw. That's just who he reminds me of with the eyeball test.
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    Re: All Things Draft:

    Walter football has us taking Damontre Moore at 32 now. That would be some pick. Before the combine, you'd see him going in the top 5 in almost every mock draft.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Walter football has us taking Damontre Moore at 32 now. That would be some pick. Before the combine, you'd see him going in the top 5 in almost every mock draft.
    There is no way in hell 31 other GM's discount multiple successful years of him being a pass rusher (in a 4-3 and a 3-4) because of a poor combine outing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post

    I agree with both. I wasn't disparaging Hopkins, btw. That's just who he reminds me of with the eyeball test.
    I didnt think you were.

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    Re: All Things Draft:

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    There is no way in hell 31 other GM's discount multiple successful years of him being a pass rusher (in a 4-3 and a 3-4) because of a poor combine outing.

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    It was his interviews man. Sources say he was terrible in them. I agree, I doubt he'll be there, but at least we have a realistic shot at getting a top 5 pure talent, could be a Terrell Suggs type pick.




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    Re: All Things Draft:

    I think Jarvis Jones has a better shot at a free fall, teams have actually said they took him completely off the draft board. Problem is, the two other smart and savvy teams (Giants, and Steelers) are both picking in front of us, I can see Steelers taking Jones, he's a great fit for that defense, and the Giants would take Moore, who is also a fantastic fit for the Giants defense.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I think Jarvis Jones has a better shot at a free fall, teams have actually said they took him completely off the draft board. Problem is, the two other smart and savvy teams (Giants, and Steelers) are both picking in front of us, I can see Steelers taking Jones, he's a great fit for that defense, and the Giants would take Moore, who is also a fantastic fit for the Giants defense.
    Jarvis Jones or Damontre Moore would both be insane picks. I would DIE if either of them were available at 32 especially Jones. There's always the possibility that the Ravens are one of the teams that ruled him out because of the medical, though. I seem to get the sense that the Ravens will take risks in the draft but not with injury prone or questionable medical history guys.

    When you think of the guys that Ozzie has "taken chances" on that fell in the draft, none of them had medical or injury issues. Upshaw, Jimmy Smith, Kindle (at the time of course, who could have guessed he'd fall down a flight of stairs), Oher, Ray Rice, Ngata, Suggs, Reed... NONE of them missed a lot of games in college.

    Couple that with the guys we know Ozzie has removed from his board because of medical like Rob Gronkowski, and I kinda get the sense that they're conservative when it comes to those issues.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post

    It was his interviews man. Sources say he was terrible in them. I agree, I doubt he'll be there, but at least we have a realistic shot at getting a top 5 pure talent, could be a Terrell Suggs type pick.
    Maybe. Man, to drop fro. A top 5 pick to 32? That would have to be an epic failure in interviews.

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    From what I've studied so far this QB class has concerns. Does not mean no one will develop into quality starter but serious questions.

    I agree. Teams are going to severely reach for a QB this year, even more so than 2011 IMO.




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    Expectation is Ravens will make linebacker Dannell Ellerbe a respectable offer prior to free agency. Will he take it? We'll see.

    I think they'll offer him 5/30 or 4/25, if he refuses that, I don't expect him to be back. Ozzie will not overpay for Ellerbe.




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