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    I am definetly between brown and minter as best ILB prospects in this draft. I think I am leaning more towards minter tho, may seem petty but brown has problems getting off of blocks(Oregon game)




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    Quote Originally Posted by JCroUSAF View Post
    I was just wondering what top LT prospects there will be next season. If lewan and that other jr do not return to school we have a chance to grab a solid LT. But besides those 2( can't remember the other jr name) who is out there that could possibly be solid starters?
    It's likely going to be a decent class of tackles. Taylor Lewan and Jake Matthews will likely be the top 2 names, but there are several other good senior LT prospects as well, among them Cyril Richardson and James Hurst. Lewan and Matthews will be high 1st rounders, Richardson and Hurst are more like 2nd-3rd round guys right now but could easily rise with good senior years.

    That's not counting in potential underclassmen who declare early... Cyrus Kouandjio is likely the best of that bunch and probably another 1st rounder if he comes out early. Antonio Richardson is another junior to watch, he beat out Dallas Thomas for Tennessee's starting LT spot as a sophomore, and will likely declare if he has a good year. So there will be some talent there if the Ravens have a need at OT going into 2014. (These are all LT prospects BTW)




  3. #318

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    It's likely going to be a decent class of tackles. Taylor Lewan and Jake Matthews will likely be the top 2 names, but there are several other good senior LT prospects as well, among them Cyril Richardson and James Hurst. Lewan and Matthews will be high 1st rounders, Richardson and Hurst are more like 2nd-3rd round guys right now but could easily rise with good senior years.

    That's not counting in potential underclassmen who declare early... Cyrus Kouandjio is likely the best of that bunch and probably another 1st rounder if he comes out early. Antonio Richardson is another junior to watch, he beat out Dallas Thomas for Tennessee's starting LT spot as a sophomore, and will likely declare if he has a good year. So there will be some talent there if the Ravens have a need at OT going into 2014. (These are all LT prospects BTW)
    Hurst has been the starting LT since his freshman year i believe? Yeah def. some options there, and the Ravens would likely have less needs then they have this yr and with a few more compensatory picks coming probably they could have some flexibility to use their natural picks to move up(from 32 ) if need be.




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    Re: All Things Draft:

    Quote Originally Posted by JCroUSAF View Post
    I was just wondering what top LT prospects there will be next season. If lewan and that other jr do not return to school we have a chance to grab a solid LT. But besides those 2( can't remember the other jr name) who is out there that could possibly be solid starters?
    By the time the Ravens pick in 2014, all the top LTs will be gone as usual... Bc




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    Quote Originally Posted by JCroUSAF View Post
    I am definetly between brown and minter as best ILB prospects in this draft. I think I am leaning more towards minter tho, may seem petty but brown has problems getting off of blocks(Oregon game)
    Oregon's offense negates LB's by design. I was leery about Brown's poor Fiesta Bowl too, but then I remembered that no LB's do well against Oregon's offense if their team's DL cannot win the line of scrimmage battle with it's base personnel. Kansas St came close to winning that LOS battle, but they had to use extra personnel to do it. By the end of the first half, Oregon adjusted and went to a short/medium passing game to exploit the holes that had developed in the K St defense. And then that's where Oregon's defense is absolutely lethal against LB's and Brown in particular: he had too much space to cover, too many decisions to make, Oregon keyed on him, and he got lost. So I think we can let that Oregon game go for Brown; give him a mulligan.




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    Oregon's offense negates LB's by design. I was leery about Brown's poor Fiesta Bowl too, but then I remembered that no LB's do well against Oregon's offense if their team's DL cannot win the line of scrimmage battle with it's base personnel. Kansas St came close to winning that LOS battle, but they had to use extra personnel to do it. By the end of the first half, Oregon adjusted and went to a short/medium passing game to exploit the holes that had developed in the K St defense. And then that's where Oregon's defense is absolutely lethal against LB's and Brown in particular: he had too much space to cover, too many decisions to make, Oregon keyed on him, and he got lost. So I think we can let that Oregon game go for Brown; give him a mulligan.
    Watched the whole game and it was pretty clear to me that Oregon schemed 100% for Brown. The game callers made the comment repeatedly that it looked that way too. Brown would be just fine behind our DL.
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    Unfortunately, I'll never be able to take Mel Kiper seriously--particularly with respect to Te'o--after he suggested that the Chiefs should take him #1 overall a few months back. That was really the apex of the Te'o overhype train that has just recently completely derailed.

    If you want to blame anybody for the carnival atmosphere around Te'o, blame Kiper, Mayock, and a handful of other die-hard Notre Dame fans in the media that went ga-ga over him. I see Kiper is still carrying the torch, so at least he's consistent...




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    Unfortunately, I'll never be able to take Mel Kiper seriously--particularly with respect to Te'o--after he suggested that the Chiefs should take him #1 overall a few months back. That was really the apex of the Te'o overhype train that has just recently completely derailed.

    If you want to blame anybody for the carnival atmosphere around Te'o, blame Kiper, Mayock, and a handful of other die-hard Notre Dame fans in the media that went ga-ga over him. I see Kiper is still carrying the torch, so at least he's consistent...
    I don't take any of the so-called "experts" seriously. Kiper, Mayock, et al, are only there to feed football fans' insatiable appetite for NFL draft speculation. It is really only entertainment. I love the NFL Draft to death, but I take the talking heads with a grain of salt, just as I do the dozens of mock drafts I read online. Guys like Kiper are very lucky because they can miss their picks 100%, try to justify why the GM was an idiot for not taking his guy, and make a ton of money to boot... Bc




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    Okay prepare for serious hype: Is Arthur Brown the next Ray Lewis?

    The draft can't come too soon.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ursula View Post
    Okay prepare for serious hype: Is Arthur Brown the next Ray Lewis?

    The draft can't come too soon.
    I saw that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I saw that too.

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  13. #328

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    Took my shot at a mock, tell me what you think

    I think the Ravens become a trade down partner for a team trying to secure a QB. In this mock i'll trade down to the early 2nd and use that ammo later to trade up in the 3rd round as well as from the 4th round into the mid 3rd round. The extra picks we have should take care of it but if not we can afford to give up a mid round pick next year if need be with more compensatory picks coming.

    2nd round-S DJ Swearinger-Hybrid safety, doesnt have elite ball hawking range but that is probably the only weakness in his game if you want to call it that. He can play in the box, he can cover the slot, play 2 deep, etc. Would give us a nice tandem with him and Huff.

    2nd round-OT Terron Armstead-We get our eventual LT here, i expect Mckinnie to be re-signed and we can put Juan Castillo to good use grooming Armstead. He's an outstanding athlete but he'll need at least a year get stronger in his lower body, uses his hands better and adjusting to the level of comp in the NFL.

    3rd round-WR Da'rick Rogers-Eventual starter to replace Boldin. Love how he uses his strength and hands to get off the press, almost always look to catch away from his frame. Good initial foot quickness for a guy his size and he's a very natural route runner that doesnt look to be thinking too much or tipping his routes.

    3rd round-ILB Kiko Alonso-Starter at either mike or will, plays fast and attacks line of scrimmage hard vs the run or blitzing the a gap. Very comfortable in coverage, can redirect, play a split out back or TE, reads QB well. A bit stiff in the hips compared to say an Ogleetree but his play spead and instincts more then makes up for it.

    4th round(compensatory)-TE Travis Kelce-Ravens need a in-line blocking TE and because of an injury they are fortunate to find one that happens to be an upgrade over Ed Dickson as a pass catcher. This move will allow for Pitta to play more on the move and in the slot.

    5th round(compensatory)-NT TJ Barnes-The Ravens are pretty set across the line but could use an upgrade over Cody at the backup nose spot. Barnes is a gigantic guy that plays hard and is difficult to move, would give solid run down snaps to keep others fresh

    6th round-OLB Walter Stewart-Really sucks he has the spinal issue, when i watch him he showcases everything, he plays hard, uses his hands well, can bend the edge, has good intial burst and plays with good leverage. I'd take a flier on him late and see if i can get 4 years out of him.

    6th round(compensatory)-QB Brad Sorensen-Former BYU recruit, good live arm, nice touch, solid athleticism. Needs to refine his footwork and speed up his reads. Probably doesnt make the team in year 1 but a nice developmental guy to groom on the practice squad year one and eventually compete to be the #2 guy.

    7th round(compensatory)-ILB/OLB Ian Sluss-Sleeper guy from Portland St. that was brought to my attention, could not stop watching this guy. He's undersized at 5'11'' 235 but he's a good athlete, plays hard and fast. Also comfortable in space, comes from a pro style 3-4 and played every LB in it. Can rush the passer with multiple moves, very instinctive. If you youtube this guy you cant look away, even if i dont tell you his number he just jumps off the screen, worth a late round look to play ST and maybe in the nickel early on and let him compete for more as he goes.
    Last edited by Carey; 04-03-2013 at 09:52 PM.




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    Really impressive Carey. Would be fine with that draft. The only disagreement with me is I would take Reddick over Alonso. Other than that I like it. Really like Swearinger. He'd be an upgrade to Pollard already IMO. He is a sure tackler and better in coverage. Armstead as the future man is something I really like and Rogers is one of my favorite WR in this draft
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    Thanks run, i thought about Reddick there, he has more physical upside i think but i just like Alonso's coverage ability better.

    Oh and shout to BPR for teaching me how to study WR's, been looking at WR' non stop for 2 weeks now lol




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