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    Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?



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    Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?

    No Tavon Austin?




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    Nice job, youngster.
    I'll be sure to pick it apart sometime after lunch
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    Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?

    If Austin is available in the mid-late 20's, absolutely... outside of that? pass...




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    Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?

    i dont think theres a round 1 talent in this draft, even the golden boy Tavon Austin doesnt interest me for more than a 2nd (our last second). Honestly, I think the greatest value at WR is Hunter and Rodgers. Id take either in the 2nd but again im not sure its worth moving up for him, especially if Rodgers/Hunter or some of these others are still on the board. I do think we come away with a WR, but not in the first two rounds. Id be surprised if Hunter, Rodgers or Hopkins will be there at the end of two. If we dont draft a WR, that tells you how the team feels about Thompson, Streeter and Reed/Williams. Swope is intriguing to me. I think hes got some value but again, id have a similar 3rd round grade on him.
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    Assuming we have the cap room to keep Boldin and Jones, I think we have much bigger needs to address in the first few rounds of the draft. Smith-Boldin-Jones-Doss-Williams plus maybe a late round pick and a rookie free agent to push the last two guys for jobs in camp will be fine.




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    Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?

    I don't think Austin will fall. That's the reasoning behind that. Thanks for te support, fellow Ravens Nation!




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    Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by CharmCityCrab View Post
    ... Smith-Boldin-Jones-Doss-Williams...
    Don't forget Deonte Thompson and Tommy Streeter too... Bc




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    Quote Originally Posted by CharmCityCrab View Post
    Assuming we have the cap room to keep Boldin and Jones, I think we have much bigger needs to address in the first few rounds of the draft. Smith-Boldin-Jones-Doss-Williams plus maybe a late round pick and a rookie free agent to push the last two guys for jobs in camp will be fine.
    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    Don't forget Deonte Thompson and Tommy Streeter too... Bc
    I disagree pretty strongly with this line of thinking. We have a need at WR both short and long-term. Boldin is old and if he's not extended he'll only be here one more year. Jacoby is a part-time 3rd WR at best if he's the full-time return specialist. Of the top 3 only Torrey Smith is a certain commodity and he's a very good #2, not a #1.

    Beyond those 3 on the depth chart you're into very questionable territory. I was very high on Doss when he was drafted, but based on what he put on tape last year I am no longer high on him at all. He was fully healthy this past season and split the #3 WR job w/Jacoby, and Joe often looked his way when he was on the field, but he did nothing at all with his opportunities. He looked EXTREMELY soft, his hands appear to have regressed badly, and his route running is not up to par. I don't see him as Boldin's replacement but rather more of a #4 WR.

    Streeter, Thompson, and Williams are all camp bodies that are a long shot to ever be major contributors in the NFL. We can always bet against the odds and assume that they'll pan out... but the Ravens have drafted 13 WRs in the 4th round or later since 1996. Only Brandon Stokely and Jermaine Lewis have panned out at all. So they're 2 for 13 with plenty of misses like Marcus Smith, Justin Harper, Clarence Moore, etc. etc.

    So what's the long-term WR situation look like? Torrey Smith and then... absolutely nothing. Drafting a WR early doesn't solve the problem and I'm well aware that even 1st and 2nd round picks can bust, but this is a VERY deep and excellent class of WRs. If DeAndre Hopkins is on the board at #32 and all the guys higher on your big board are gone, why not take him? If you're on the clock at 64 and Da'Rick Rogers is your BPA, why not take him? You take the guys you like the best, and those are two EXCELLENT players.

    This is all, of course, ignoring the very real possibility that Jacoby and/or Anquan are going to be let go. If that happens, then WR shoots up into one of your top needs undoubtedly.




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    Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    I disagree pretty strongly with this line of thinking. We have a need at WR both short and long-term. Boldin is old and if he's not extended he'll only be here one more year. Jacoby is a part-time 3rd WR at best if he's the full-time return specialist. Of the top 3 only Torrey Smith is a certain commodity and he's a very good #2, not a #1.

    Beyond those 3 on the depth chart you're into very questionable territory. I was very high on Doss when he was drafted, but based on what he put on tape last year I am no longer high on him at all. He was fully healthy this past season and split the #3 WR job w/Jacoby, and Joe often looked his way when he was on the field, but he did nothing at all with his opportunities. He looked EXTREMELY soft, his hands appear to have regressed badly, and his route running is not up to par. I don't see him as Boldin's replacement but rather more of a #4 WR.

    Streeter, Thompson, and Williams are all camp bodies that are a long shot to ever be major contributors in the NFL. We can always bet against the odds and assume that they'll pan out... but the Ravens have drafted 13 WRs in the 4th round or later since 1996. Only Brandon Stokely and Jermaine Lewis have panned out at all. So they're 2 for 13 with plenty of misses like Marcus Smith, Justin Harper, Clarence Moore, etc. etc.

    So what's the long-term WR situation look like? Torrey Smith and then... absolutely nothing. Drafting a WR early doesn't solve the problem and I'm well aware that even 1st and 2nd round picks can bust, but this is a VERY deep and excellent class of WRs. If DeAndre Hopkins is on the board at #32 and all the guys higher on your big board are gone, why not take him? If you're on the clock at 64 and Da'Rick Rogers is your BPA, why not take him? You take the guys you like the best, and those are two EXCELLENT players.

    This is all, of course, ignoring the very real possibility that Jacoby and/or Anquan are going to be let go. If that happens, then WR shoots up into one of your top needs undoubtedly.
    So, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, rather draft a WR (due to your logic above) than say an ILB...when Ray has retired, Ellerbe is an UFA, and McClain is coming off a season-ending injury. I think ILB is much more of a priority than WR at this point. Hopefully, I did not read your post incorrectly... Bc




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    Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    I disagree pretty strongly with this line of thinking. We have a need at WR both short and long-term. Boldin is old and if he's not extended he'll only be here one more year. Jacoby is a part-time 3rd WR at best if he's the full-time return specialist. Of the top 3 only Torrey Smith is a certain commodity and he's a very good #2, not a #1.

    Beyond those 3 on the depth chart you're into very questionable territory. I was very high on Doss when he was drafted, but based on what he put on tape last year I am no longer high on him at all. He was fully healthy this past season and split the #3 WR job w/Jacoby, and Joe often looked his way when he was on the field, but he did nothing at all with his opportunities. He looked EXTREMELY soft, his hands appear to have regressed badly, and his route running is not up to par. I don't see him as Boldin's replacement but rather more of a #4 WR.

    Streeter, Thompson, and Williams are all camp bodies that are a long shot to ever be major contributors in the NFL. We can always bet against the odds and assume that they'll pan out... but the Ravens have drafted 13 WRs in the 4th round or later since 1996. Only Brandon Stokely and Jermaine Lewis have panned out at all. So they're 2 for 13 with plenty of misses like Marcus Smith, Justin Harper, Clarence Moore, etc. etc.

    So what's the long-term WR situation look like? Torrey Smith and then... absolutely nothing. Drafting a WR early doesn't solve the problem and I'm well aware that even 1st and 2nd round picks can bust, but this is a VERY deep and excellent class of WRs. If DeAndre Hopkins is on the board at #32 and all the guys higher on your big board are gone, why not take him? If you're on the clock at 64 and Da'Rick Rogers is your BPA, why not take him? You take the guys you like the best, and those are two EXCELLENT players.

    This is all, of course, ignoring the very real possibility that Jacoby and/or Anquan are going to be let go. If that happens, then WR shoots up into one of your top needs undoubtedly.
    I still think youre judging Doss far to early. 2 years in the league and we all saw what Jones offered, that frankly, Doss doesnt and thats game changing speed. the fact that he took away snaps from Jones says more than the other way around.
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    Re: Should the Ravens draft a WR with one of their pick?

    I think in long term thinking, the Ravens have to figure out who can step in for Boldin. Not be Boldin or even play like him, but just step up to become a starting WR. If after 2 yrs, Doss and L Williams haven't really made them feel confident in that, then I say draft a guy early. The issue with us is that we are going off of games and the Ravens are using practice and games to measure if any of those two can be the guy.

    Streeter and Thompson are far too early in the process to know, but I think the Ravens know what they have in the other two guys, bad or good. I guess we will see on draft day how they feel about Doss or L. Williams and if by then if Boldin and Jones are still on the team.




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