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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday



    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    As more and more details come out, I'm getting concerned that Ozzie blinked a bit and just gave Linta and Flacco a blank check...

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ownst-to-agent



    This, plus Linta saying "they agreed to all our demands" makes me feel like Ozzie knew our backs would be up against a wall had we not gotten this deal done prior to FA, so just let Linta have the win. It's always said, the best deal is one that leaves both sides a little upset, because they both gave up things to get it done. It just feels like after talking a few times, Linta pulled a card that said "this is our last offer, if you don't like it, we'll roll the dice again" and Ozzie didn't want to roll.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this?
    It's essentially a good win-win deal all around. Both sides compromised a bit, which is what a good negotiation is all about.
    Last edited by RavensRule21215; 03-02-2013 at 01:15 AM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    As more and more details come out, I'm getting concerned that Ozzie blinked a bit and just gave Linta and Flacco a blank check...

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ownst-to-agent



    This, plus Linta saying "they agreed to all our demands" makes me feel like Ozzie knew our backs would be up against a wall had we not gotten this deal done prior to FA, so just let Linta have the win. It's always said, the best deal is one that leaves both sides a little upset, because they both gave up things to get it done. It just feels like after talking a few times, Linta pulled a card that said "this is our last offer, if you don't like it, we'll roll the dice again" and Ozzie didn't want to roll.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this?
    People forget this is Ozzie's MO. He simply pays highly for the star players on the team. He did the same thing with a number of Ravens, making them the highest paid at their position at the time. This is no different.

    This doesn't surprise me at all.

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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Gotta feel great about signing a Raven born Franchise QB, the first! What a great start to march madness. Joe is a Raven, and he will be ballin for at least 6 more years in Charm City.
    Highest paid, and helps the cap. Win win. This is a great day, BMORE we have a QB!!!

    Ozzie at it again people, he will defend this title, and ride into the sunset with 3 under that HOF belt.

    Great day to be a Raven!!! Purple Pride RAVENNation




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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    As more and more details come out, I'm getting concerned that Ozzie blinked a bit and just gave Linta and Flacco a blank check...

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ownst-to-agent



    This, plus Linta saying "they agreed to all our demands" makes me feel like Ozzie knew our backs would be up against a wall had we not gotten this deal done prior to FA, so just let Linta have the win. It's always said, the best deal is one that leaves both sides a little upset, because they both gave up things to get it done. It just feels like after talking a few times, Linta pulled a card that said "this is our last offer, if you don't like it, we'll roll the dice again" and Ozzie didn't want to roll.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this?
    linta is advertising for new clients. What did you think he was going to say? I caved to the team? No. He is going to portray things as if he won the negotiation. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But he is posturing via the media. If this was the last ditch offer, then clearly he also made concessions.




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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I think you're reading too much into his words.

    "Unlikely this thing falls apart at this stage even though nothing has been finalized yet. All signs point toward a huge deal for Joe Flacco"
    The agent said it's not done until it's signed. Ravens agreed to the terms we put forth but it's not signed yet according to the agent. Aaron is right as usual.

    Ravens definitely caved in. Note the phrase above, Ravens agreed to the terms we put forth. Joe is the highest paid player in football passing Brees' contract. JOe had that kind of leverage on them as he tied MOntana and Warner for the most TDs (11)
    in a single playoff season and 0 interceptions, plus of course, SB MVP. No wonder Ozzie didn't like the agent-lol.


    http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/...e-ea075abf381a

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/r...tory?track=rss
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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    I don't have a problem with this. It will likely be extended or restructured in a few years anyway as all big contracts seem to be.

    Everyone keeps comparing deals, Flacco - Brees, Flacco - Rodgers etc....

    All these guys who are supposed to be 100% better than Joe were in the stands or home on the couch for the big game. Yes Joe has had lousy games, you won't find a QB out there who doesn't. Joe also has phenomenal games, just like every other high priced QB.

    All athletes have a window of opportunity to show they are worth the big money. Joe happened to show it at exactly the right time. Once that window closes you can't open it again.

    If the Ravens didn't want to pony up the cash you can bet there are probably 2 or 3 teams maybe more who would.

    You can have your single season passing records and most td's in a season record but if you are watching the big game from somewhere other than the sidelines it means nothing.




  7. #217

    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    The agent said it's not done until it's signed. Ravens agreed to the terms we put forth but it's not signed yet according to the agent. Aaron is right as usual.

    Ravens definitely caved in. Note the phrase above, Ravens agreed to the terms we put forth.
    Also note that the phrase is being uttered by the player's agent, who has a vested interest in portraying this as a complete victory for his client.

    Probably best to wait for the details of the contract to be released before making definitive statemnts like "the Ravens caved"




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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    People forget this is Ozzie's MO. He simply pays highly for the star players on the team. He did the same thing with a number of Ravens, making them the highest paid at their position at the time. This is no different.

    This doesn't surprise me at all.

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    What's different here, though, is that the player got signed without having to resort to first getting tagged. That's what surprised me.




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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Great news. Oz has a habit of paying top dollar to star players he drafted.




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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Also note that the phrase is being uttered by the player's agent, who has a vested interest in portraying this as a complete victory for his client.

    Probably best to wait for the details of the contract to be released before making definitive statemnts like "the Ravens caved"
    Some of the details already say JOe's the highest paid player so if that's true Ravens "definitely caved in.''




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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Who cares? We just won the Superbowl? That is what you play for, to win the game! If it weren't for him, we wouldn't have gotten there. The Ravens gambled and were probably happy to lose.




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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Good point but if this isn't caving in, check out this story on nfl.com. This "block buster" deal will have all teams pissed at Ravens for raising the bar. After trying the re-structure so many QBs they will have to pay them more after this deal. Somewhere, Matt Ryan and Aaron Rogers are smiling as they anticipate more, not less money.

    Thanks Joe.


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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Good point but if this isn't caving in, check out this story on nfl.com. This "block buster" deal will have all teams pissed at Ravens for raising the bar. After trying the re-structure so many QBs they will have to pay them more after this deal. Somewhere, Matt Ryan and Aaron Rogers are smiling as they anticipate more, not less money.

    Thanks Joe.


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...gers-matt-ryan
    If not Joe, Matt Ryan's contract would've pushed the envelope. This is just a combination of a new young crop of QBs getting their first FA deals and the contract numbers naturally rising.

    As most analysts are saying, we'll need to see the details of the deal to really tell who "won". In any case, Ozzie knew he was going to be paying a fortune, and except for the few odd fans who somehow believed we should let Flacco walk and re-draft a QB, everyone else knew letting Joe go somewhere else isn't an option for a team that wants continued success.
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    Re: Flacco Agrees To Deal, Will Sign on Monday

    Is it me or is Linta being low class with this whole "they agreed to our demands" stuff? When you get what you want be magnanimous. "Joe is a rare talent and he loves Baltimore. This is what we wanted all along. We are just glad it got done. Now we look forward to what we hope will be many successful years with the Ravens." Something like that. Shill for new clients backstage behind thr curtain. The next team you negotiate with will not want to be seen as your sucker.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    Is it me or is Linta being low class with this whole "they agreed to our demands" stuff? When you get what you want be magnanimous. "Joe is a rare talent and he loves Baltimore. This is what we wanted all along. We are just glad it got done. Now we look forward to what we hope will be many successful years with the Ravens." Something like that. Shill for new clients backstage behind thr curtain. The next team you negotiate with will not want to be seen as your sucker.
    He's an agent. It's the nature of the beast.

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