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  1. #85
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    Re: Strategy for first round pick.



    Quote Originally Posted by Shambla View Post
    I think KC would be a good fit. As pointed out above, Smith isn't going to throw your team to victory so he needs a good running back. Last year Jamaal Charles set the record for career YPC at 5.82 (breaking Jim Brown's 5.22 mark). They also sent six pro bowlers, which is kind of a joke but there's talent on that team. Combine those pieces with a successful coach in Andy Reid and "on paper" they could be a 10 win team.
    I definitely think Alex Smith is a good fit in KC running Reid's WC offense. It would give them some additional time to draft and groom a young QB.




  2. #86

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    I don't see Alex Smith as that big a step up from Matt Cassell. If I were KC, I wouldn't give up more than a 4th for him.




  3. #87

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    Preface any thoughts on this topic by understanding the FO's approach to the draft in years past and how it differs from this year.

    Ozzie has very, very rarely gone into the draft with gaping holes on the roster. Although we've been tight up against the cap for many years, he's found veteran "glue guys" and emerging draft picks from prior years to round out the roster everywhere. Very rarely did we have major flux at multiple positions; the closest I can remember us coming is 2011 when the CB depth chart was very concerning and we took Jimmy Smith.

    But even then, even if CB was a huge need Ozzie was able to employ his preferred draft strategy: snag a highly talented prospect who falls way below where his talent level should place him. Often that prospect has not been at a position of need, but in 2011 it just so happened to be.

    This year is very different. The team has massive, gaping holes at no less than 4 positions (LT, FS, ILB, and DT). If Flacco isn't signed to a long-term deal by March 4th and the tag must be used, the team WILL NOT be able to get the glue guys in free agency to fill in some of those gaps, and in fact they may need to cut players at certain positions and create or deepen more holes in the roster, like at WR.

    So, taking into consideration how different this year is from prior years, what does that mean for the draft strategy? To me, it suggests that they won't be able to sit around and wait for a prospect to fall to them. They NEED to add highly talented players that present the possibility of starting in year 1. If they can't sign anybody in free agency, they will have no choice but to go out looking for starters.

    To me that means trading up. If a guy you feel is a day-1 starter at a position of need is around in the 20's, there may be no choice but to trade up, because you don't have a starting FS, LT, or ILB on the roster. You just have to fill those needs and you may need to trade up more than once. That's not Ozzie's style but this isn't Ozzie's year either. We'll be able to have a better conversation on this topic once we know whether or not Flacco will be tagged, but at this point that's where I'm leaning.
    A+ post. We could go into this draft short at least 5 key D players and 3-5 from the O. I'm worried (OK, I'm always worried).




  4. #88
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    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    We've done very good getting value with more picks, but its time we moved up and get a sho nuff World Beater.




  5. #89

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    Oh, my.

    I had to look it up, but things certainly would have been different.
    Really, and you're going to make everyone look it up? Come on man.
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  6. #90

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Thunder View Post
    Really, and you're going to make everyone look it up? Come on man.
    Or you could just read 4 or 5 posts down from that.




  7. #91

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    I think this year will mirror this past years draft. There will be several players that slide out of the first round into the top of the second round and there will be guys there that will want to move up into the 32 spot. I bet Oz will trade the 32 to to like 35 or 36, pick up a high to mid 4th round and still get his guy. That'd give us 3 picks in the 4th round, one being a comp. With the depth on the defensive line, I can see them grabbing two qualities defensive linemen with their 2nd and 3rd round picks.




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    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by kronusthebonus View Post
    I think this year will mirror this past years draft. There will be several players that slide out of the first round into the top of the second round and there will be guys there that will want to move up into the 32 spot. I bet Oz will trade the 32 to to like 35 or 36, pick up a high to mid 4th round and still get his guy. That'd give us 3 picks in the 4th round, one being a comp. With the depth on the defensive line, I can see them grabbing two qualities defensive linemen with their 2nd and 3rd round picks.
    Just remember, to trade from 32 to 35 or 36...the team at 35 or 36 has to WANT to move up. That means there needs to be some player who slid down to 32 that a team at 33 or 34 might jump on.

    Otherwise, we'd have to reduce the value we get for #32 to make the trade.
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