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    Re: 2013 NFL Scouting Combine Thread



    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Damontre Moore might fall with such a poor showing.

    Poor reps. Poor speed.

    How can Tavon Austin bench more reps than Moore?

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him retroactively blame an undisclosed injury.
    I highly doubt he would get away with that after he just went through all the medical checks and interviews. The Combine is the most thorough doctor's visit most of those guys will ever have in their lives. Few if any injuries would truly remain "undisclosed," so teams would just read that as a lie and drop him further.

    I don't think Moore is going to be the first DE drafted, but his game was never really based on elite athletic ability. He's more quick than fast and more finesse than strength. He is not going to fit every team and he's probably going to be better in a 3-4 than a 4-3. He'll still be a top 10 pick in all likelihood.




  2. #467

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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    He's raw, and up and down. How many freakish athletes like that make it in the NFL with poor college production? Quite a lot, when you consider guys like JPP. He's had some games where he looks like an unstoppable force, like against Fresno state in the bowl game.
    I'd make him duck walk or bear crawl between every damn drill.
    Seriously, get lower, man!




  3. #468

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I like Hunt a lot, just not in the first 2 rounds, he's a much older prospect than most and very, very raw.

    He had like 2 huge games and the rest he disappeared.
    He'll be 26 to open his first NFL season and has virtually no wear and tear on his body from playing a lot of high school and college ball. He's a genetic freak whose physical attributes aren't going to decline for a long time, it's not like he's a pure speed DE who won't have that kind of quick twitch anymore by his early 30's. I won't say the age is no concern at all, but it won't impact his draft stock in a huge way.

    JJ Watt had 11.5 career sacks in college, 106 combined tackles, and 36.5 TFLs. Hunt has 16.5, 112, and 28. I get that Watt only played 2 years and Hunt played 4 but he played only a handful of defensive snaps per year until this past year so they're roughly equivalent in college games played.

    Watt was the 11th overall pick primarily based on his freakish upside and measurables. People forget how raw he was coming out of college as well. Hunt is more raw, not QUITE the physical specimen (but very close), and older, but that will make him a late 1st or early 2nd instead of a top-15.

    I'm not necessarily saying Hunt SHOULD go that high, based on tape alone he's definitely more of a mid-round prospect, but I'm pretty convinced he's going in the 1st or early 2nd at the latest.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    He'll be 26 to open his first NFL season and has virtually no wear and tear on his body from playing a lot of high school and college ball. He's a genetic freak whose physical attributes aren't going to decline for a long time, it's not like he's a pure speed DE who won't have that kind of quick twitch anymore by his early 30's. I won't say the age is no concern at all, but it won't impact his draft stock in a huge way.

    JJ Watt had 11.5 career sacks in college, 106 combined tackles, and 36.5 TFLs. Hunt has 16.5, 112, and 28. I get that Watt only played 2 years and Hunt played 4 but he played only a handful of defensive snaps per year until this past year so they're roughly equivalent in college games played.

    Watt was the 11th overall pick primarily based on his freakish upside and measurables. People forget how raw he was coming out of college as well. Hunt is more raw, not QUITE the physical specimen (but very close), and older, but that will make him a late 1st or early 2nd instead of a top-15.

    I'm not necessarily saying Hunt SHOULD go that high, based on tape alone he's definitely more of a mid-round prospect, but I'm pretty convinced he's going in the 1st or early 2nd at the latest.
    Yeah, I'm not sure where he'll go and he very well could go that high...I just personally wouldn't grab him before the 3rd round.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: 2013 NFL Scouting Combine Thread

    I'm not sure about Hunt at 32 either, but I'd almost certainly trade up for him in the 2nd round if he starts to fall. Datone Jones is someone I'd probably take at 32 though.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Yeah, I'm not sure where he'll go and he very well could go that high...I just personally wouldn't grab him before the 3rd round.
    Not much difference between 62 and the third round.




  7. #472

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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Not much difference between 62 and the third round.
    I'd rather trade back at that point if we are deadset on him.

    Sio Moore just had a 10-7 broad jump!
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




  8. #473

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    Sio Moore looks explosive with a 10'7" broad jump (He got HIGH up in the air too)

    Both Minter and Hodges had 9'11's
    Last edited by Justlovemybirds; 02-25-2013 at 01:42 PM.




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    Te'o with a 9'5" broad jump




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    Re: 2013 NFL Scouting Combine Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    Te'o with a 9'5" broad jump
    Has he ran the 40 yet?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Has he ran the 40 yet?
    Not yet




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    Re: 2013 NFL Scouting Combine Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    Te'o with a 9'5" broad jump
    The pressure seems to be getting to him.
    He Who Dares.....Wins




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    Re: 2013 NFL Scouting Combine Thread

    Why is no one talking about arthur brown here?




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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    The pressure seems to be getting to him.
    i think the lack of explosion got to him.
    -JAB




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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    i think the lack of explosion got to him.
    lol i see what you did there




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