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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years



    Quote Originally Posted by TheOrioleWay View Post
    (with deep apologies to CincyCat, a class act bengals fan!):

    Living in Cincinnati, you really learn to appreciate what we have with our Ravens. Being landlocked here, I often have to defend my Ravens against some of their more outspoken (and drunk at tailgating) fans.

    This is quickly accomplished by mentioning that Reagan was president the last time they won a playoff game.

    Even more embarassing, Flacco in his 1st 4 years, earned more playoff wins than the entire Bengals franchise history. My Brother in Law was a huge Flacco basher and this helped to keep him in check.

    Five minutes after we hoisted the Lombardi, though, I received a text from him that simply said: "I was wrong about Flacco".
    Very nice. I bet that hurt him a bit.




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    Quote Originally Posted by pslholder96 View Post
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    That had to be so satisfying to see and read. Heck that puts a smile on my face!
    Actually, it was bittersweet. I had stored some of his more caustic e-mails about Flacco with the intention of returning them to him in the eventuality that Flacco won a SB (MVP was a bonus). Some mentioned the "Dilfer Curse" and we'd "never win a SB with Flacco at the helm". The more recent ones referred to "Flake-O, the nerd" and put him in the group of "loser QB's like Romo, Cutler, etc.that will never see a title".

    I was going to throw them in his face, but couldn't after his humble "I was wrong" admission, so I decided to take the high road as he had done. Oh well.




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    after the ravens run this year and their competitivness the last several years i am convinced winning is as much about culture as it is talent. i didn't realize newsome was so young.he is in his early 50's. as long as bisciotti is around baltimore will be a competitor. it starts at the top.




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    The Ravens Organization is the Real Gold Standard when it comes to the NFL!
    "Grab those pusillanimous sons-a-bitches by the nose and kick 'em in the balls.." General George S. Patton




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Sua Sponte View Post
    I'd say 2 Lombari's in 17 years is pretty damn good.

    That is 8.5 years a Ring.

    There is voting going on about getting a ring ever 12 years, I'd say I'd take that as long as we are staying competitive and knocking the NFL's beloved teams out of the race ever once in a while.
    Winning Super Bowls is the ultimate, but I tell ya I sure do like knocking Brady and Manning, and NFL's fantasy teams out of the playoffs.

    Let's win one more first before we go to that 12 year strategy
    For all of the 6 rings bullshit by the Steelers fans on their current pace the Ravens would have won basically 10 rings in the time the Steelers have been in existence.

    Granted the Ravens would have to sustain an unprecedented level of success but WGAF.




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOrioleWay View Post
    (with deep apologies to CincyCat, a class act bengals fan!):

    Living in Cincinnati, you really learn to appreciate what we have with our Ravens. Being landlocked here, I often have to defend my Ravens against some of their more outspoken (and drunk at tailgating) fans.

    This is quickly accomplished by mentioning that Reagan was president the last time they won a playoff game.

    Even more embarassing, Flacco in his 1st 4 years, earned more playoff wins than the entire Bengals franchise history. My Brother in Law was a huge Flacco basher and this helped to keep him in check.

    Five minutes after we hoisted the Lombardi, though, I received a text from him that simply said: "I was wrong about Flacco".

    Please share this with your Bro. in law

    http://www.youtube.com/v/ktDO_LtGSLM

    I think this applies to him as well as many other critics as it relates to what Joe would say to them.




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    I'd be ecstatic with a long-run average anywhere close to a Super Bowl every 8.5 years. There are 32 teams in the NFL, so that's about 4x as many as the average franchise will see.

    I think we're witnessing an era of great Ravens football right now, and we should enjoy being around for the history that the organization is creating. There's no guarantee it will last forever, and if history is any indicator it won't. To Colts had a great ride during the Unitas years, but eventually the team faded and even moved. The Orioles had an incredible run of sustained winning, but organizations inevitably change, and since then they've become a sub-par organization.

    Looking at some of the greatest runs of success in NFL history, those teams eventually faded and sunk into periods of mediocrity. After winning 5 Super Bowls in a pretty condensed period, the 49ers only had 2 winning seasons from 1999-2010. The Cowboys have a great history of success, but they've been average since 1997. Even the Steelers were generally terrible before 1972 and very average from 1980-1991, and they've pretty much set the standard for sustained greatness in the Super Bowl era.

    And quite frankly the Ravens haven't accomplished anything on the level of those organizations yet.

    The Ravens are set up well with a young and highly competent owner and the FO is set up well with Ozzie. Hopefully DeCosta will step in and continue that. I think we're in an era of great Ravens football that could last a while longer. Enjoy it! Things inevitable change over time.




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Sua Sponte View Post
    Well if we are going to count them, then Baltimore has 6 Championships. Just saying.

    58, 59, 68, 70, 2000, 2012
    Are you seriously counting 68 as a championship year? Sorry, choking to the freaking Jets in one of the biggest upsets in sports history is nothing to brag about and should not be counted as a Baltimore championship even if it was before the merger and technically we were "NFL champions".




  9. #24

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    All I have to say is enjoy this run and really appreciate the effort our FO does to keep our team competitive. While I hope it doesn't happen if we don't make the playoffs next year just watch some our spoiled fanbase calling for John and Ozzie's head and asking for the roster to get blown up.




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Losac View Post
    Are you seriously counting 68 as a championship year? Sorry, choking to the freaking Jets in one of the biggest upsets in sports history is nothing to brag about and should not be counted as a Baltimore championship even if it was before the merger and technically we were "NFL champions".
    I go back and forth on this technicality. I would be interested in people's thoughts on our '68 "championship." Clearly the Jets were not the NFL champions that year, since they didn't play in the NFL. But it was a championship game, and we lost it, so how could we be champions? Did the NFL just not have a champion that year?

    The best analogy I can come up with is thinking about if the Ravens decided to play a game against the Toronto Argonauts after the Super Bowl, and lost it. Would we be champions? What if the NFL and CFL merged the following year?

    BTW, as an aside, I don't know that having the greatest QB in NFL history sidelined with injury for most of the game counts as 'choking.'




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    This was up on the RSR facebook page yesterday. There were quite a few people on there saying how they didn't feel like 2 Super Bowls in 17 years was enough success to make them happy. This was my response:

    "There are some very childish, unrealistic knuckleheads posting here today. Two Super Bowl wins in 17 years not good enough? I'm sorry, but if you believe that you are advertising yourself as one of those embarrassing "fans" who knows nothing about the history of the NFL and how rare NFL titles truly are.

    Statistically speaking, any random NFL team should win a Super Bowl 3.13% of the time. The Ravens have won a Super Bowl in 11.76% of their seasons in the NFL. That's pretty darn impressive. During the last 17 years, only 11 teams have won even one super Bowl. Ravens are one of six franchises to win two. If you can't accept that type of success, then just give up on being a football fan altogether.

    The Browns and Lions have yet to even reach a Super Bowl in 47 years.

    Jaguars and Texans are still waiting for their first Super Bowl appearance as well. In fact, the Texans haven't even reached a conference final yet.

    It's been over 40 years since the Chiefs and Jets have even reached a Super Bowl. They both won an early Super Bowl and haven't even been back in the big game in four decades. There are a lot of Jets and KC fans in their 70s who were in their 30s the last time they played a Super Bowl. Still want to complain about prosperity now?

    The Vikings and the Bills and Eagles have been around since the start of the NFL/AFL merger and are still looking for their first win. They are a combined 0-10 in Super Bowls.

    The Titans/Oilers have had some great teams over the years, yet have ONE super bowl appearance (a loss). Seahawks have one appearance in their history (also a loss). Chargers fans have never tasted what a NFL championship feels like either.

    The Redskins and Cowboys, two of the biggest fan bases in the country, have gone a combined 38 years since APPEARING in a super Bowl. Still feel like two titles in 17 years isn't good enough?

    Raiders have been to 1 super bowl ( a loss) in the last 30 years. It's been 28 years since the Dolphins even appeared in a Super Bowl.

    Broncos have fielded a lot of very good teams over the last decade+ and still are now at 14 years and counting without a Super Bowl appearance.

    Smile, Ravens nation, and realize how blessed we are to have the type of success we've had"




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    Quote Originally Posted by HotInHere View Post
    I go back and forth on this technicality. I would be interested in people's thoughts on our '68 "championship." Clearly the Jets were not the NFL champions that year, since they didn't play in the NFL. But it was a championship game, and we lost it, so how could we be champions? Did the NFL just not have a champion that year?

    The best analogy I can come up with is thinking about if the Ravens decided to play a game against the Toronto Argonauts after the Super Bowl, and lost it. Would we be champions? What if the NFL and CFL merged the following year?

    BTW, as an aside, I don't know that having the greatest QB in NFL history sidelined with injury for most of the game counts as 'choking.'
    The Colts were favored by 18 points going into the game. Earl Morrall had started the entire season and had a career year. Plus didn't Shula stick with Morrall during the season even when Unitas was technically able to return? They only put Unitas into the game in the second half as a desperation move. It's still considered probably the biggest upset in the history of pro football. I'd call that a choke.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    This was up on the RSR facebook page yesterday. There were quite a few people on there saying how they didn't feel like 2 Super Bowls in 17 years was enough success to make them happy. This was my response:

    "There are some very childish, unrealistic knuckleheads posting here today. Two Super Bowl wins in 17 years not good enough? I'm sorry, but if you believe that you are advertising yourself as one of those embarrassing "fans" who knows nothing about the history of the NFL and how rare NFL titles truly are.

    Statistically speaking, any random NFL team should win a Super Bowl 3.13% of the time. The Ravens have won a Super Bowl in 11.76% of their seasons in the NFL. That's pretty darn impressive. During the last 17 years, only 11 teams have won even one super Bowl. Ravens are one of six franchises to win two. If you can't accept that type of success, then just give up on being a football fan altogether.

    The Browns and Lions have yet to even reach a Super Bowl in 47 years.

    Jaguars and Texans are still waiting for their first Super Bowl appearance as well. In fact, the Texans haven't even reached a conference final yet.

    It's been over 40 years since the Chiefs and Jets have even reached a Super Bowl. They both won an early Super Bowl and haven't even been back in the big game in four decades. There are a lot of Jets and KC fans in their 70s who were in their 30s the last time they played a Super Bowl. Still want to complain about prosperity now?

    The Vikings and the Bills and Eagles have been around since the start of the NFL/AFL merger and are still looking for their first win. They are a combined 0-10 in Super Bowls.

    The Titans/Oilers have had some great teams over the years, yet have ONE super bowl appearance (a loss). Seahawks have one appearance in their history (also a loss). Chargers fans have never tasted what a NFL championship feels like either.

    The Redskins and Cowboys, two of the biggest fan bases in the country, have gone a combined 38 years since APPEARING in a super Bowl. Still feel like two titles in 17 years isn't good enough?

    Raiders have been to 1 super bowl ( a loss) in the last 30 years. It's been 28 years since the Dolphins even appeared in a Super Bowl.

    Broncos have fielded a lot of very good teams over the last decade+ and still are now at 14 years and counting without a Super Bowl appearance.

    Smile, Ravens nation, and realize how blessed we are to have the type of success we've had"
    Great Post!




  14. #29

    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    Quote Originally Posted by pslholder96 View Post
    All I have to say is enjoy this run and really appreciate the effort our FO does to keep our team competitive. While I hope it doesn't happen if we don't make the playoffs next year just watch some our spoiled fanbase calling for John and Ozzie's head and asking for the roster to get blown up.
    Shoot, there'll be people calling for Mr. Harbaugh and Mr. Newsome's heads right after the first loss of the season lol!
    That fact is about the safest bet one can make on these boards.

    I am extremely appreciative of the history this team has built in so short a time. I think the org will continue to be successful, but i won't be mad if we don't get a SB every 8.5 years. I'll take the ups with the downs no problem.
    If you break the rules you can't make the rules.
    - Remove Coach Tomlin from the NFL Competition committee.




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    Re: 2 Super Bowl Rings in 17 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Losac View Post
    The Colts were favored by 18 points going into the game. Earl Morrall had started the entire season and had a career year. Plus didn't Shula stick with Morrall during the season even when Unitas was technically able to return? They only put Unitas into the game in the second half as a desperation move. It's still considered probably the biggest upset in the history of pro football. I'd call that a choke.
    Fixed is more like it, Bookies all knew that. LOL




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