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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie



    I really want to see some sources saying that McKinnie showed up to camp out of shape.

    http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/201...e-more-weight/

    I keep seeing people say this, with absolutely zero proof.




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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by landspeed View Post
    I really want to see some sources saying that McKinnie showed up to camp out of shape.

    http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/201...e-more-weight/

    I keep seeing people say this, with absolutely zero proof.
    I have seen enough articles that indicated Mckinnie was out of shape when training camp arrived. That article you posted goes back to May, right around OTAs. At the time all indications was that he was in shape, hence the ravens exercised his $500k bonus shortly afterwards. A day or two before training camp is when the weight issues surfaced.




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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by landspeed View Post
    I keep seeing people say this, with absolutely zero proof.
    The fact he was sitting on the bench while Oher often struggled at LT is proof enough to me.




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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by bacchys View Post
    The fact he was sitting on the bench while Oher often struggled at LT is proof enough to me.
    The fact that it was pretty universally reported by everyone with media access to training camp and never denied by the team or McKinnie is pretty compelling evidence too.

    But like HR said, some people just don't want to see the truth through their own fantasies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by landspeed View Post
    I really want to see some sources saying that McKinnie showed up to camp out of shape.

    http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/201...e-more-weight/

    I keep seeing people say this, with absolutely zero proof.
    Outside of the half dozen or so articles on this very web site, it took a two second Google search with "McKinnie out of shape" to produce this ....

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-in-baltimore/

    I mean really. You really expect the team to say it?!?!

    But keep thinking it wasn't true even though those at camp saw it first hand. I guess that's your right.
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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by landspeed View Post
    I really want to see some sources saying that McKinnie showed up to camp out of shape.

    http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/201...e-more-weight/

    I keep seeing people say this, with absolutely zero proof.
    Here's an nfl source saying why MC KINNEY was kept out of the regular season. It also says
    HARBS went to him after the SB and said we want to talk about next year but look who
    he destroys in the POs.

    FREENEY
    DUMERVILLE
    ALDON SMITH

    We gotta keep him and get someone for him to groom. Like I posted, we all knew he was
    in the dog house for his weight.


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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ryant-mckinnie
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Great stuff!

    Yet, there will still be those who will question the notion of him reporting out of shape in spite dozens of reports that support it.

    Why this one player is given Gaither-esqu mysticism is beyond me.
    I think he and Gaither both have that mysticism because of Michael Oher.

    IT is plain as day to see that Oher cannot play LT at an above average NFL level, yet he is trotted out there game after game. Basically any fat, lazy giant of a man is better then him, meanwhile they sit and Big Mike plays. I think the "apologists campaign" is almost exclusively due to the fact that the coaching staff seems unable to see what us normal fans see easily... that Oher simply cannot play LT. We elevate these fat, lazy out of shape LT's because they are simply better then Big Mike. It's kind fo sad.




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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie

    Film Study gave Oher a D for the SB at RT.

    It is kind of sad. The scary part is if Ravens cut McKinney and move Big Mike back to LT.




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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    I think he and Gaither both have that mysticism because of Michael Oher.

    IT is plain as day to see that Oher cannot play LT at an above average NFL level, yet he is trotted out there game after game. Basically any fat, lazy giant of a man is better then him, meanwhile they sit and Big Mike plays. I think the "apologists campaign" is almost exclusively due to the fact that the coaching staff seems unable to see what us normal fans see easily... that Oher simply cannot play LT. We elevate these fat, lazy out of shape LT's because they are simply better then Big Mike. It's kind fo sad.
    Except they're not. McKinnie played better AFTER he got into shape, and Gaither played better BEFORE he went lazy as fuck. Michael Oher keeps getting sent out there because unlike those guys, he puts in the work every single day. Yes, he's only a middling left tackle, but do you honestly believe Harbaugh is so stupid that he would keep average on the field while above average sits there?

    Of course not. He sends Mike out there because until one of those lazy fat asses gets it into gear, Oher is the best option we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    Except they're not. McKinnie played better AFTER he got into shape, and Gaither played better BEFORE he went lazy as fuck. Michael Oher keeps getting sent out there because unlike those guys, he puts in the work every single day. Yes, he's only a middling left tackle, but do you honestly believe Harbaugh is so stupid that he would keep average on the field while above average sits there?

    Of course not. He sends Mike out there because until one of those lazy fat asses gets it into gear, Oher is the best option we have.
    middling is generous, IMO.

    Gaither has been lazy since his sophmore year at MD... it's well documented.
    We GOT Big Mac because he was so fat and lazy in Minny... He was around 400 pounds when he first showed up here, got slightly into shape and had a slightly above average first year here while getting into shape. Gaither had two dramattically better then average seasons while the coaching staff questioned his work ethic, his friends, and the inuendo that he was a burnout.

    Look, I understand the example it sends to the young guys when you have a fat, lazy player that doesn't practice hard starting... but when he is the best option you have at the 2nd most important offensive position, it really is cutting off yoru nose to spite your face.




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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    Except they're not. McKinnie played better AFTER he got into shape, and Gaither played better BEFORE he went lazy as fuck. Michael Oher keeps getting sent out there because unlike those guys, he puts in the work every single day. Yes, he's only a middling left tackle, but do you honestly believe Harbaugh is so stupid that he would keep average on the field while above average sits there?

    Of course not. He sends Mike out there because until one of those lazy fat asses gets it into gear, Oher is the best option we have.
    It's just like when Ellerbe showed up to Training Camp out of shape. Harbaugh moved McClain inside. Did he really want to keep McClain there? No, but he's not going to be held by the balls by some lazy ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    EYes, he's only a middling left tackle, but do you honestly believe Harbaugh is so stupid that he would keep average on the field while above average sits there?

    Of course not. He sends Mike out there because until one of those lazy fat asses gets it into gear, Oher is the best option we have.
    I honestly believe there are those who honestly believe Harbaugh has a penchant for cutting his own throat.




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    Re: The Story of John Harbaugh & Bryant McKinnie

    Now I can see why Ozzie Newsome was so upset about missing out on Joe Thomas. I can see exactly why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacchys View Post
    I honestly believe there are those who honestly believe Harbaugh has a penchant for cutting his own throat.
    I'm probably one of those you speak of, but I wouldn't go that far.

    I believe he has a penchant for placing Oher at LT.... and unhealthy one at that.

    I also think he puts too much credence in setting an example for the young guys re: poor practice players.

    But I thinkhe honestly believes he is getting the most from his team as a whole by playing the guys he does. I'm not sure he is correct in that line of thinking, but I believe that is his line of thinking.




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    How in the hell are all of these guys falling down flights of stairs????




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