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Thread: Cosell on running qb's: Running qb's are great but throwing from the pocket is still the best option
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02-19-2013, 08:05 PM #25Legendary RSR Poster
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Both the LA Express and the Niners had design run plays for him.
Hard to call him a scrambling QB when two teams manufactured plays specifically designed for him to run the ball.
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02-19-2013, 08:14 PM #26
Re: Cosell on running qb's: Running qb's are great but throwing from the pocket is still the best option
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Re: Cosell on running qb's: Running qb's are great but throwing from the pocket is still the best option
I think that NFL QB's are a lot faster than people give them credit for. If you look at Madden speeds, you would think that they were grannies or something. You just don't see QB's run that often for a few reasons:
A: Picking up yards on the ground is more about agility and acceleration. I guess this might just be semantics I'm arguing about, but a lot more goes into being a great runner than just top speed. This is why RGIII's marginally impressive 40 time allows him to be such a great rusher.
B:QB's tend to be very tall. 6'0" at minimum, and most are in the 6'3"-6'6" range. Tall guys can be fast after they've had time to speed, but the height usually hurts their acceleration and agility. That's why RB's like Ray Rice and MJD are so dangerous.
C: Just being a fast runner doesn't mean you can throw well on the run. Many countless man hours are put into working on the drop back, staying in the pocket, and throwing. Going outside of the pocket and throwing on the run without planting properly takes an entire different skill set.
D: QB's have longer careers, and speed is the first thing to go for players. Believe it or not, Peyton Manning used to be pretty quick when he was in college and first his first few years in the pros. Any NFL player loses a step in their 30's, but luckily for QB's, you don't need speed to be great.
E: Smart QB's who are forward thinking try to make plays with their arms and not put their bodies and careers at risk, and smart coaches and owners don't want to see their $10 million or more man at risk.
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Re: Cosell on running qb's: Running qb's are great but throwing from the pocket is still the best option
Young was more than just a scrambler. He was one of the best QB's once he tucked the ball down and headed down the field. Just looking at the stats doesn't tell the whole story. He was like a fullback in the open field. He's the reason I hate the slide rule. Young would watch the defender, and if he held up waiting for Young to slide, he'd lower his shoulder and truck the guy. If he came in hard, Young would try to slide late and draw a penalty.
He picked up a concussion or two with that tactic, too. Smart in the short term, maybe not so much over the course of a career.
Young wasn't a "running QB" in the same vein as Cunningham or Vick, but he had a much better arm than Cunningham or Vick. When he did run, however, it was extremely effective.
However, he's a bad argument for "running QB wins SB." He didn't run much that year (didn't need to), and was far, far more a pocket passer at that point in his career.
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