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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi



    One guy pops off about Ray and it's a media frenzy? Come on. Boomer is on the radio in NYC IIRC. He has to stir up some noise to get heard. If people respond, they keep saying it. Very simple. Just like on slow days you'll hear some dork on sports radio asking if Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame. Just something to fill air time in the offseason.

    As for Cary, you don't hit or make contact with officials, period. The league saw fit to levy no punishment, and heaven knows, Goodell hasn't ever been shy about that, so clearly they must not have thought there was anything to it.




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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi

    Quote Originally Posted by Uli2001 View Post
    You are swallowing line, sink and hook the argument made by the opposition on this call. No, Williams should not have been ejected or fined. Contact with refs happens all the time in pile situations. We have seen it time and again. Refs are trained to understand that. How could it be any different if refs are going to be allowed to dive into piles to determine possession or break up fights?
    Williams stood up and with both hands, shoved the official. That's a FAR cry from the occasional bumping that occurs when a scrum breaks out or when, as you put it, officials dive into piles.

    This is the first time I've heard anyone defend Williams this much so I don't think my analysis is far off the mark.
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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi

    I thought Williams should have been ejected. Bruce Miller as well. And whoever tore Carey's helmet off should have been too.




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    I was at the game and I thought for sure Williams would get ejected but kudos to the refs for letting the players play. When I refs let that one go it was obvious how they intended to officiate the rest of the game.




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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi

    As soon as he pushed the ref I said "OMG he's going to get ejected". As noted above, the refs knew this was the SB and they didn't want to influence the outcome. They let both teams get away with a little bit and I think, did a very good job of not being the deciding factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    As soon as he pushed the ref I said "OMG he's going to get ejected". As noted above, the refs knew this was the SB and they didn't want to influence the outcome. They let both teams get away with a little bit and I think, did a very good job of not being the deciding factor.
    I thought the officiating was very good. The refs let both teams play a physical game and called it consistently throughout. I think all their calls were fine, all their non-calls were fine, and I don't normally think that after a game.
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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    King's take yesterday on Flacco is silly. He, like the other members of the football media, need something to write about and players whose contracts are about to expire are their focus right now.
    now now, why would you ever accuse the media of doing such a thing




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    Quote Originally Posted by alienrace View Post
    Boomer has hated the Ravens since 2000, after the game with the Bengals where we supposedly "ran up" the score against his good friend Bruce Coslet. He went on a massive tirade in the post game show about Billick and the Ravens. Since then he's pretty much hated us and can't let it go.
    Years ago I met two ladies at a party who claimed that they dated him when he played for Maryland. They said he was a prick and a womanizer and couldn't gain an erection. They said that shame haunts him and so he takes it out on the Ravens.

    I can't vouch for the validity of the story but they told it to the whole room with straight faces lol.
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    I wonder if they saw the obvious pass-interference that wasn't called on the guy covering Torrey Smith on the long pass from Flacco in the 1st quarter. The announcers couldn't believe that it wasn't called. If smith wasn't interfered with on that play, it's a touchdown.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Fan Dan View Post
    Years ago I met two ladies at a party who claimed that they dated him when he played for Maryland. They said he was a prick and a womanizer and couldn't gain an erection. They said that shame haunts him and so he takes it out on the Ravens.

    I can't vouch for the validity of the story but they told it to the whole room with straight faces lol.
    Welp...After reading your post, thus having now read the said story on the internet....It must be true. Right?




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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi

    Quote Originally Posted by working_man View Post
    Clearly, Boomer has an ax to grind with Ray. There was more than one clip this morning taking a shot. Whatever, eff you Boomer.
    Boomer is loathesome, not only in regards to Ray, but also to the Ravens and Baltimore as a whole, imo! Include Shannon in there as well, for picking against the Ravens in the SB...shame on you! The only guy who picked the Ravens was noneother than Cowher himself - he knows what this team is capable of, and Shannon should've too. But, Boomer, effyou!
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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi

    Its not so much the stories about the Ravens, its the same things being brought out. Flacco's contracts gonna bury them... They should just let another team sign him and take the picks.. If they cut Suggs they can sign Flacco.. and on and on. Even the good stories about players lead to.. that was holding/ pass interference.... Reed was offside... Rays a murderer.... Aren't there other teams with salary issues..???




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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkins Fury View Post
    I understand this sentiment... But, what if "coming clean" is the same exact story as what we know and heard... and that was the truth. Anyone at this point still question it, will not be happy with ANYTHING other than Ray coming out and saying he did it.

    The story will not be dropped because, people don't want an open ended story... people want closure. Black and White. People can't deal with gray areas...
    Agreed.

    I think this is pretty much universal - sometimes people in general fear of actually having to think about context & circumstance.

    Quote Originally Posted by esmd View Post
    Very lazy reporting by King. The quotes he referenced were made in response to releasing older veterans like they did with Heap, Mason, and Gregg a couple years back. They had nothing to do with the Flacco negotiations, a franchise QB in his prime. He's putting 2 & 2 together and getting 10. I emailed him and told him as much. Just terrible reporting, and not up to his usual standards (I generally like reading his work).

    As for Boomer, fuck him. The courtroom transcripts are public record. If he has an issue, he should read it (I'd bet he never has) and point out any issues he may have with the testimony. But he won't because he's fucking lazy.
    PRetty much. Heck, even the "great" Deadspin should give it a read too...
    Quote Originally Posted by esmd View Post
    Oh, P.S.

    As for Williams, by all rights he should've been ejected. It would've sucked, and might've cost us the win, but I don't think anyone could argue against it if he had been, let alone penalized. But it is what it is. The refs, to their credit, cut both teams a lot of slack both during and between plays. Probably too much in Cary's case, but it is what it is. FWI, there is precedent, as I believe Cam Newton made contact with a ref this season and wasn't ejected. I think he might've been penalized, though. Either way, I still wouldn't have complained if he'd been tossed, and I definitely think he should've been fined. Terrible precedent by the NFL. I also wasn't thrilled with Williams' post-game comments on it. The quotes I saw were pretty unapologetic. At least Newton apologized to the ref directly during the game, and publicly afterwards, and it seemed like a genuine apology.
    Well that's because Cam is a more standup guy than Cary.

    Seeing him in numerous SoundFX and Behind the Benches; jksut seems like a whiny/can't accept the truth type of guy.

    Comes to mind when Ray was coaching him on catching the ball or something, and Ray just kept saying; should've caught that; but Cary was getting too worked up trying to defend it/make excuses - and Ray even said; don't get too heated/start yelling.
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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi

    Quote Originally Posted by stevez51 View Post
    Its not so much the stories about the Ravens, its the same things being brought out. Flacco's contracts gonna bury them... They should just let another team sign him and take the picks.. If they cut Suggs they can sign Flacco.. and on and on. Even the good stories about players lead to.. that was holding/ pass interference.... Reed was offside... Rays a murderer.... Aren't there other teams with salary issues..???
    That's another thing -- Reed was not offside. He timed it absolutely perfectly. There was no hold on the kickoff and the call on 4th and goal was the right call.

    The best 49er argument is that Cary Williams should have been ejected. I happen to agree with that and think the game might have been different. But if Williams was to get ejected, there were a couple of 49ers who should have also been ejected and were not.

    I think most of the media has sided with us on this ref stuff.

    And one last thing on that 4th down play -- the very fact that we are having a debate about this further proves that the ref was right to swallow his whistle. Refs should not unilaterally bail out teams making bad plays with the game on the line with questionable/debatable calls.




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    Re: The National media is OBSESSED since we won the Lombardi

    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    Agreed.

    I think this is pretty much universal - sometimes people in general fear of actually having to think about context & circumstance.


    PRetty much. Heck, even the "great" Deadspin should give it a read too...
    Well that's because Cam is a more standup guy than Cary.

    Seeing him in numerous SoundFX and Behind the Benches; jksut seems like a whiny/can't accept the truth type of guy.

    Comes to mind when Ray was coaching him on catching the ball or something, and Ray just kept saying; should've caught that; but Cary was getting too worked up trying to defend it/make excuses - and Ray even said; don't get too heated/start yelling.
    That's why I'm not really sad about Cary leaving. I think he's done a great job in Baltimore and was key to our success, but I won't lose sleep over him signing somewhere else.




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