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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?



    The 49'ers may have been more talented, but they weren't the better team. We'll see how Kaepernick does next season with DC's having more tape on him.




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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    How is it silly to note that before an unprecedented thirty minute blackout, the 49ers struggled with the pistol? They had six points, two turnovers and far less rushing yards than after the blackout was lifted.
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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    The 9ers couldn't anything going with the pistol before the blackout and before Ngata left the game, any suggestion otherwise to that is silly. Ngata was dominating them, and they were rushing for around 1/2 yards every attempt.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    The pistol formation was very effective throughout the game. Any suggestion otherwise is silly.

    Pat Kirwin and others on Sirius NFL Radio pointed out this very fact when analyzing the game this week. The Niners were averaging 8 yards per play out of the pistol formation and then mysteriously, they didn't run one play out pistol during that final goal line stand.

    It doesn't diminish what we accomplished. More so, it shows that superior coaching and experience will give you the advantage in clutch situations.
    Honestly, I don't think it was as much the pistol formation than the 49ers just being able to exploit matchups throughout the game. Crabtree and Davis against Ray Lewis was a winner everytime. Now seeing Pollard was hurt, Crabtree and Davis were winning zone battles against them too. Those were happening even out of standard formations.

    Gore did get some yardage out of it, but it's not like Kaepernick was running all over the field on us like he did Green Bay. And there were times he was getting hit even after handing the ball off.

    I think our earlier defenses before this year would have better shut down that stuff. They just knew where they wanted to attack more than anything. IMO of course.




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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    The 9ers couldn't anything going with the pistol before the blackout and before Ngata left the game, any suggestion otherwise to that is silly. Ngata was dominating them, and they were rushing for around 1/2 yards every attempt.
    So maybe it was the loss of Ngata and not the blackout that was the difference in the 49ers' offensive effectiveness. I think the only thing the blackout did was to throw the Ravens off their game - more so than jump-starting the 49ers. I think the Ravens played without focus for about 20 minutes of game time, and it cost them.

    Regardless, I don't think the 49ers are going to have an easy time getting back to the Super Bowl in the near future. They have a lot of good teams to play through in the NFC - Seattle in their own division, Green Bay, Atlanta, New Orleans will bounce back, too. It's not as if they are going to be some perennial representative of the NFC in the Super Bowl, and that isn't a reflection of their team or their coach. It's more a reflection of the game and the competition.




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    LOL - Talking about not having it to win the SB, Jim HARBs is still whining about the non holding call in the end zone
    at end of the game. Hell, the penalty should have been vs them. Play was designed to get Jimmy to hold. Refs got
    it right by letting them play the game plus the ball was over-thrown anyway because of the pressure on the QB.
    K choked with pistol offense, pure and simple. We blow a 3-touchdown lead and they still couldn't get ahead
    of us thanks to Tucker time and Joe running out the clock in 4th qtr. We even gave them 2 pts on the
    safety and still beat them with clock running out.

    But a week later Jim is still whining. SF can have him. We have the real Harbaugh champ.


    His father should be ashamed of him. What a p&ssy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    How is it silly to note that before an unprecedented thirty minute blackout, the 49ers struggled with the pistol? They had six points, two turnovers and far less rushing yards than after the blackout was lifted.
    Because they didn't struggle with the pistol before the blackout.

    The problem was they didn't use it enough. That was point Kirwin et all were trying to make. I have no reason to doubt their stat.
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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    these mic'd up replays aren't doing much for Jim's image. i love when his voice cracks when he gets really worked up.




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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    The 49'ers may have been more talented, but they weren't the better team. We'll see how Kaepernick does next season with DC's having more tape on him.
    Exactly. We played as a true team, not just a collection of individuals. The Niners thought theirtalent would overcome anything. They were wrong.




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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    The 49ers lack talent in their secondary, Goldson and Witner are significantly overrated, they are just heavily talented around the trenches.




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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    LOL - Talking about not having it to win the SB, Jim HARBs is still whining about the non holding call in the end zone
    at end of the game. Hell, the penalty should have been vs them. Play was designed to get Jimmy to hold. Refs got
    it right by letting them play the game plus the ball was over-thrown anyway because of the pressure on the QB.
    K choked with pistol offense, pure and simple. We blow a 3-touchdown lead and they still couldn't get ahead
    of us thanks to Tucker time and Joe running out the clock in 4th qtr. We even gave them 2 pts on the
    safety and still beat them with clock running out.

    But a week later Jim is still whining. SF can have him. We have the real Harbaugh champ.


    His father should be ashamed of him. What a p&ssy.



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    Exactly. If you notice, this is his MO.

    He claimed they didn't fumble because forward progress was stopped.
    He claimed Brooks was induced offside in the first quarter.
    He claimed Culliver didn't interfere with Torrey in the 4th quarter.

    Listening to him is like reading Pravda or getting your news from the North Korean news service. It might be entertaining, but don't take it too seriously.

    He is a tremendous poor sport for whining this long. If he didn't teach his receivers to initiate contact and push off (Crabtree twice that series as well as Delanie Walker), this would not have happened.

    If he wants to be fair, he ought to mention Pitta being assaulted in the end zone by Bowman or Torrey being interfered with on his way to the end zone. I won't hold my breath on that.

    Go look at what he said after losing to the Giants in the NFCCG last year. Same whining about the refs. He is an extreme baby. He could learn from his brother and father.




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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    Exactly. If you notice, this is his MO.

    He claimed they didn't fumble because forward progress was stopped.
    He claimed Brooks was induced offside in the first quarter.
    He claimed Culliver didn't interfere with Torrey in the 4th quarter.

    Listening to him is like reading Pravda or getting your news from the North Korean news service. It might be entertaining, but don't take it too seriously.

    He is a tremendous poor sport for whining this long. If he didn't teach his receivers to initiate contact and push off (Crabtree twice that series as well as Delanie Walker), this would not have happened.

    If he wants to be fair, he ought to mention Pitta being assaulted in the end zone by Bowman or Torrey being interfered with on his way to the end zone. I won't hold my breath on that.

    Go look at what he said after losing to the Giants in the NFCCG last year. Same whining about the refs. He is an extreme baby. He could learn from his brother and father.
    That's what happens when Jim was the baby brother who got everything he wanted growing up. Think about it, he always had it easy. Star QB in Michigan, QB in the pro's for many years, few years as assistant coach before getting a head coach job at san diego then stanford, then got the head coach job for the 49'ers. Then, just look at the path John had to take. John spent almost 10 years as a special teams coach/dbacks coach in Philly before he got the job here.




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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    IMHO, I think the jury is out there on the OP's question.

    Yes, Jim took the team to conference champion games in both years, and the Super Bowl in his second year. Let's be honest, the 49ers are currently known for their physicality, right? Where did that come from? Vernon Davis wasn't the Vernon Davis that we currently know, hell there was even a whisper of his "softness" before a coach showed him his arse. I think largely, the physicality came from Mike Singletary.

    Jim happened to be in a great situation with the Niners given that they have talents across the board (thanks to their sub-par records in previous years).

    I am curious to see how Jim would do down the road.

    Off the point, don't you guys find it a bit icky icky of Jim's handling of the Alex Smith situation? I meant, Jim literally pumped him up, assured him that he would be the quarterback, then tried to get Manning, then re-assured Alex, then basically fucked him over once he got hurt. What Jim has been doing to Colin is what he used to do to Alex.

    My point is that... winning will mask that for time being, but we should wait until the road gets really ugly and rough... No way he would have handled a "mutiny" like our John had.




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    Re: Will John always get the better of Jim?

    well, I know John has certainly been getting the better of Darth Sidious lately...

    SO there's that
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    John vs. Jim

    I was watching Super Bowl Fx last night and noticed the distinct difference in both coaching styles. Jim is very hyper and out of control which caused the other coaches around him to react in the same manner. Jim was always looking for a penalty in each big play the Ravens made. When you looked at John he seemed in control and calm. I also noticed that the other coaches around him reacted in the same manner. John will react to a bad call but not nearly the frequency that Jim does. The players are going to mimic the the style of their coach.




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