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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis



    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Ray Lewis didn't fucking make this about himself, I'm so fucking tired of hearing that BS. The MEDIA MADE IT ABOUT RAY LEWIS, NOT HIM. When Ray is asked a question he's going to answer it, and the whole team loves him, what are you going to do? Enough disrespecting someone who done so much for this team and organization, the man deserves to go out like a champ that he is, I'm tired of all the mindless hate about this guy, and all the false accusations.
    People can hate on Ray Lewis all they want, but I guarantee Ray has done more for the community and other people then his haters have.




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    These evangelists of atheism hide their ideology worse than Ray Lewis

    Good to see the OP get called out, OP you're not cute and you're not clever you're just a slave to your emotions. Its obvious that you hate Christians at an emotional level so much that you're willing to smear #52 with known falsehoods to make your point.




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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    People can hate on Ray Lewis all they want, but I guarantee Ray has done more for the community and other people then his haters have.
    I agree. It amazes me that people think Ray Lewis owes them an explanation for what happened 13 years ago. The bottom line is this...he only owed the court of law an explanation and he gave it. He owes NOTHING to the court of public opinion. Want the facts of the case? Search for them, they're out there. It's funny you didn't hear anything about this for the last 12-13 years but then Ray announces his retirement and all the hatemongers come out of the woodwork to re-hash his past. To them, it doesn't matter what he's done with his life since then, it doesn't matter how he has used his experiences to become a better person, it doesn't matter how he uses his life to transform others in a positive way, it doesn't matter the good he's done and leadership skills he's brought not only to his team but to the entire NFL...all they choose to focus on is one incident in his life that I'm sure was his darkest point in time. He resolved to become a better man for it and he did. Can we ask more of him than that? Absolutely not.

    From this point forward, I will no longer read hate filled diatribes that spew nothing but ignorance. I'm done with giving the haters any of my energy. People will always believe what they want and they have chosen to believe the worst of Ray Lewis. Nothing will change that but it's no longer worthy of my time.
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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    The media are pissed because the most media hated QB in the league just won SB MVP, so they have to find a scapegoat, so now they will tear down the guy they hyped up so much in the play offs. Had the media made this more about Flacco, maybe they wouldn't have looked so bad. Have you noticed how quiet the websites are? How quiet the talking heads are? Greg Cossel absolutely owned one of the ESPN radios the other day with all this BS.




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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Ray's Faith is Real, Pure and unphony! You can tell that by what he espouses...what he says rings true - a phony would not be able to feel and say what Ray does. Be thankful Ray and this team is about faith, and leave that part of your thread alone!
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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Greg Cossel absolutely owned one of the ESPN radios the other day with all this BS.
    What did he say? I need to checkout his podcast about the Super Bowl? Do you have a link by chance?




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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    People who interpret him as believing God is on the Raven's side are misunderstanding him.

    When he means is that God inspires him, and other on the team, not only in football, but in life.

    Ray has always professed the idea that God doesn't set obstacles in front of you to fail, but rather to strengthen you when you overcome them. In the context of a football game, that belief can be the difference between folding when behind and fighting your way back.


    And for the record, I think that he's not so much a self promoter, as he is aware of his status as a leader of men both on and off the field. Ray Rice considers him an older brother, not because he plays linebacker so well, but because he helped guide him through that awkward phase all men go through when they leave the adolescence of college behind and become men.
    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Ray Lewis didn't fucking make this about himself, I'm so fucking tired of hearing that BS. The MEDIA MADE IT ABOUT RAY LEWIS, NOT HIM. When Ray is asked a question he's going to answer it, and the whole team loves him, what are you going to do? Enough disrespecting someone who done so much for this team and organization, the man deserves to go out like a champ that he is, I'm tired of all the mindless hate about this guy, and all the false accusations.



    I love how the OP says to look at this objectively, meaning, if you don't agree with me you must be looking through your purple colored glasses...
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    There seems to be some other issues with the OPs opinion of Ray Lewis. I can stand back and say to some degree hes about himself. I dont think theres an argument that he likes the limelight and being seen as a leader by the public, vs Reed who is just as much a leader but doesnt. So yes the Media made this SB run about him, but he didnt shy away from it either.

    I dont see the problem with the team rallying behind him. He has been a Leader whether thats infront of the media or not, he still has been and this team doesnt have to answer for that. As far as his religion, its a big factor in his life, and in reality a lot of this teams. I wouldnt define myself as christian but I certainly respect the team for praising God. Id ask if you have the same feelings about Ed Reed because although he doesnt talk to the media as much, he rarely doesnt praise God in a similar way. Seems the bigger issue with you is God and feel like hes using it to cover up what you feel happened in Atlanta despite records saying otherwise.

    He constantly made it about him, whether it's falling down by himself near the cameras after games, or taking off his jersey and showing off the tank top with the lion on it. He puts himself up on a pedastool and I'm surprised not many of you were bothered by that. How many times is he going to do with squirrel dance? How many times is he going to spew some religious rhetoric that has no place in reality even among most christians. (I'm an atheist by the way).
    This entire section could be written verbatum by any Steeler troll. Im not sure any Raven fan has ever questioned Rays dance, and what it means for this team as well as its fans. If im not mistaken other players fell down or went down on one knee and took off their jerseys as well, even after a regular season games in some cases, so why single Ray out just because hes the draw and the cameras followed him?

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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    If im not mistaken other players fell down or went down on one knee and took off their jerseys as well, even after a regular season games in some cases, so why single Ray out just because hes the draw and the cameras followed him?
    Ray does what Ray has always done...it's just until he announced his retirement, he didn't have cameras panning on him watching his every move so people didn't see it. The general public thinks Ray has become some instant dramatic actor who begs for a camera shot. The truth is, Ray is an extremely passionate and faith driven man. He translates that passion and drive on the field and in his speeches. That is who Ray Lewis is and after 17 years, you would think his own fan base would know and recognize this.




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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Some players (and fans - yes, I'm looking at you OP) take themselves too seriously. Or at least seem to. I'm an atheist. I could care less if Ray draws heavily on his faith. Hell John Harbaugh draws heavily on his faith. He's mentioned it several times. Hey, good for them. Doesn't do anything for me, but whatever. All I care about is are they good to/for the organization and the fans, and are they (as much as we can tell) decent people. Ray Lewis strikes me as a decent guy. Despite all the posturing for the cameras, both on and off the field, his teammates, those who know him best, revere him. Ray Rice and Terrell Suggs were damn near in tears when Lewis announced his impending retirement. That's good enough for me. Look, it's a media fueled business. Players all over the place are put on a pedestal. Sometimes you just gotta smile and shake your head, smile, and roll with it.

    Oh, and as for your post in the other thread about enough being enough....hey dude, no one here is forcing you to click your mouse. You don't like it, don't read it. Simple as that.
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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by BmoreBrawla View Post
    These evangelists of atheism hide their ideology worse than Ray Lewis

    Good to see the OP get called out, OP you're not cute and you're not clever you're just a slave to your emotions. Its obvious that you hate Christians at an emotional level so much that you're willing to smear #52 with known falsehoods to make your point.
    Please identify "evangelists of atheism". I take exception to it. I believe all should be allowed to believe in what they like, so do not lump me in with Stalin for example, and I will not lump you or other Christians in with David Koresh and the Branch Davidians of Waco Texas.

    Like it has been said, if you stick a camera in my face like they do Ray and I speak my mind on what I feel, how is that pushing my philosiphy or beliefs on you?




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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    According to other players Ray was crying during his speech to them before the game. There were no cameras there. He had no reason to pretend. Ray seems to be a passionate and emotional man.

    NFL Network 2 years ago had a special on the Ray Lewis coaching tree. Not 1 coach had anything bad to say about him. That included Mike Singletary who is also one of the greatest ever to play at that same position. Those guys didn't have to show up and participate. Harbaugh was the only one with a current relationship with Ray. They did it because they loved and respected him. If this was all an act that never would have happened.
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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    Please identify "evangelists of atheism". I take exception to it. I believe all should be allowed to believe in what they like, so do not lump me in with Stalin for example, and I will not lump you or other Christians in with David Koresh and the Branch Davidians of Waco Texas.

    Like it has been said, if you stick a camera in my face like they do Ray and I speak my mind on what I feel, how is that pushing my philosiphy or beliefs on you?
    I think he was talking specifically about the OP. Settle down big fella
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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    If I had a "pedestool," I'd put myself on it, too.

    I've never thought Ray was a "God roots for the Ravens" guy, and I've always suspected the camera is drawn to him because he really *is* that dramatic. Like him or not I think he really does buy into the team/God/faith/destiny/Ray stuff. It's who he is, and I do not lightly say that he's larger than life.

    But really, that's just my 2 cents, which surely is roughly as worthless as the OP's, which seemed pretty long-winded for a mild attack on Ray. So you think he's a bit of a self promoting phony? That's nice. You and 1,000,000,000 other people. It's not exactly novel.

    *Yawn.*
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    Re: OT: Thoughts; Analysis on Ray Lewis

    Thanks for the responses. I apologize for coming off a little to angry in my rant but most of you didn't seem to be to bothered by it. Anyway, I don't really feel like I want to respond to anything that was said, but I did read all of them and it made me think a little more about it.




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