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  1. #16
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    Re: Just to prove a point



    Maybe it's time the forum members started keeping the forum civil
    That's what we've been begging for.

    What I meant was that people have a tendancy to speak more harshly when its anonymous. We don't live in a particularly civil society anyway. I expect some posters to respond with "That was the most idiotic idea I've ever read"... That's uncivil. However, we will not accept "You have got to be the dumbest jackass that has ever posted" That's personal.




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    Re: Just to prove a point

    I expect some posters to respond with "That was the most idiotic idea I've ever read"...
    And I expect that some of us will take the person to the woodshed and remind him that this is not how we will act on this message board.

    I left YBR totally. I logged off and I will never log back on there again so long as this forum exists. So, with all due respect to you and the other mods and the Admin, I think I speak for at least some of us that say we'll be DAMNED if we let this forum start rolling down that hill.

    But we are asking for help. There has to be a standard for which users can join. If you see Old19fan here, given his history I think it's totally fair to whack him immediately and not even give him the chance to ruin this message board. Same for some of the other knuckleheads that we know are part of the problem at YBR. That's just IMO of course.




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    Re: Just to prove a point

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG
    And I expect that some of us will take the person to the woodshed and remind him that this is not how we will act on this message board.

    I left YBR totally. I logged off and I will never log back on there again so long as this forum exists. So, with all due respect to you and the other mods and the Admin, I think I speak for at least some of us that say we'll be DAMNED if we let this forum start rolling down that hill.

    But we are asking for help. There has to be a standard for which users can join. If you see Old19fan here, given his history I think it's totally fair to whack him immediately and not even give him the chance to ruin this message board. Same for some of the other knuckleheads that we know are part of the problem at YBR. That's just IMO of course.
    I was pretty much saying the same thing in a thread that BurghSouth started (and was subsequently whacked). I hope he was immediately banned and who ever invited him at the very least lost invitation priviledges. We can police ourselves by keeping our posts civil, but certain posters and especially posters with KNOWN agendas need to be dealt with at a moderator level. Dealt with quickly and firmly. As I said a couple of posts up, this board is a priviledge and not a right. If people are aware that disagreement is fine but being uncivil will get you cast out of our little Eden than they will learn to be civil.




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    Re: Just to prove a point

    Maybe it's time the forum members started keeping the forum civil
    Ther is a triangular icon up near the post count in each message posted. Click it and it sends shock waves through the moderating team immediately and we can address the problem.

    This should be common knowledge to all posters.

    Try it.




  5. #20

    Cool Re: Just to prove a point

    Keep in mind that those threads were often unmoderated. The QB is an integral part of the team, and both sides felt the other was being disloyal by either 1) refusing to support him, or 2) supporting him despite subpar performance.

    A little consistency in the moderating might have alleviated that whole situation before it got so out of hand that the mods gave up on it
    A QB controversy and a losing season will catapult a home town fan base into a tissy. That's why I feel consistency in moderating still won't alleviate the situation. People on both sides of the QB debate are passionate but there are some who can't stand that some people like to discuss the QB.

    A forum dedicated to the QB is a step in the right direction but it appears that the Moderators here are the same ones from insider, so do they ignore this as they've done in the past and let it be a free for all? I enjoy talking about the QB but whats to stop this from being a smack forum too? I've always tried to be civil and I will try to continue to do the same in both places. When a forum or thread is left unmoderated justice is left in the hands of the participants of the thread, hopefully we can have some lively debates here with out undercutting one another.

    Anyway IMO the only thing that will alleviate this mess is consistent play from our QBs




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    Re: Just to prove a point

    This forum has some excellent tools that will allow us and even the users like yourself to watch the posters who get into personal attacks. The reputation feature as well as the ignore and report features will help.

    The reputation feature has some things about it that will prevent abuse or popularity to be more important than good takes. And no, it won't be public what those things are. LOL.




  7. #22

    Re: Just to prove a point

    I enjoy talking about the QB but whats to stop this from being a smack forum too?
    That is going to be up to us. There is no reason to talk about the QB situation in such a way that illicit's the kind of downhill turn that struck YBR. You can talk for example about Boller without attacking other posters with a difference of opinion. You can have a debate that doesn't include childish remarks and things like that.

    It's about forging the attitude of the forum at it's most basic level, ours.

    There are people over there that still just can't be civil. Don't believe me? Keep reading the Boller is looking sick thread. You can almost anticipate the conversation. It's not a conversation we have to have here.




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    Re: Just to prove a point

    They can't rid of that...that's T's favorite emoticon!!!
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    Re: Just to prove a point

    Like someone said on YBR a few times.Post a reply like you are talking to someone face to face.Not hiding behind a keyboard.

    Here in the UK,all football fans are a family we respect each other for our common love for the great game.Upon being involved in a few smack forums
    I was corrupted giving AFCN fans abuse.

    But to see Raven fan,going at Raven fan on YBR.Really made me feel sad and bewildered.
    Put the smile back on your face.This is a 60 minute ball game.




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    Re: Just to prove a point


    I love the now 'driping with sarcasm' icon. Now hopefully people will know when you are kidding or being sarcastic in a dry way.


    A Mr T favorite?

    for good measure:

    Finally its good to see everyone playing nicely over here. I gave up posting alot on the other board due to the hostility. With the popularity of the boar I noticed a clear dumbing down over there.




  11. #26
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    Re: Just to prove a point

    I definitely agree that part of the problem at YBR was the fact that many of you people know each other personally, have partied together, drank together and Lord only knows what else together and so you felt comfortable engaging in exchanges that people unfamiliar with your relationships didn't understand and took offense at. However, instead of staying the hell out of the argument they plunged in head first and made things worse. I always tried, not always successfully, to avoid the topics that tended to become "personal". The other issue for me was the people like OldMan, who frankly annoyed the hell out of me every place I encountered him, who only had one topic of discussion, one point of view, and kept repeating the same arguments ad nauseum. We are not stupid people for the most part, state your position once or twice and then move on to something else [B]we will figure out your position[B] we still may not agree but quit beating us over the head with the same points it's like the old saw about teaching a pig to dance ~ it frustrates you and annoys the pig. Personally, I really like a lot of the features that have been incorporated in this site, they will help keep things civil and if troublemakers are dealt with quickly it will serve as a reminder to all of us that just because we are here doesn't mean we can stay if we become problem children. I hope to be welcome to stay and want to stay here for a long time but we'll see...




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    Re: Just to prove a point

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG
    And I expect that some of us will take the person to the woodshed and remind him that this is not how we will act on this message board.

    I left YBR totally. I logged off and I will never log back on there again so long as this forum exists. So, with all due respect to you and the other mods and the Admin, I think I speak for at least some of us that say we'll be DAMNED if we let this forum start rolling down that hill.

    But we are asking for help. There has to be a standard for which users can join. If you see Old19fan here, given his history I think it's totally fair to whack him immediately and not even give him the chance to ruin this message board. Same for some of the other knuckleheads that we know are part of the problem at YBR. That's just IMO of course.
    I agree 100%. I have already spotted a couple of questionable names here. My advice: Totally avoid the use of the second person singular.

    If you don't know what means, you're on shaky ground already. Go look it up.




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    Wink Re: Just to prove a point

    many of you people know each other personally, have partied together, drank together and Lord only knows what else together
    I don't know "what else together" either, but I'm afraid that if it is too interesting, my wife will find out and I will be banned from these boards forever by a higher power than these other mods!




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    Re: Just to prove a point

    I'm going to bore you all to death with his, and will insert it into many threads as we roll along: Don't forget your 'Report' and 'Ignore' features.
    Admin Steve
    Screwing up Ravens message boards since 1999.




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    Re: Just to prove a point

    The report and reputation systems are great letting the community help moderators. Another good feature from other boards are warnings. Letting people know what they can do and can't three or four strikes means ban.

    The ignore function is not optimal, since it only blacks out the posts of poster you want to ignore, but if thread is more or less hijacked, it will be littered with quotes and respoenses to the ignored poster, making it hard to find the posts your looking for. It only works if most of the board agrees what posters to ignore, and banning is better for those cases imho.




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