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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A



    Um, does anyone think Bisciotti's 30k people comment was just a joke?

    That's how I took it. I think he figured the place would be PACKED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Thoughts View Post
    Houston,

    I am sure that gentrification will work in Baltimore... it might be a few years to a generation away, but it is not impossible... .Already, the property in the city is getting expensive...

    Baltimore reminds me a bit of DC.... DC (especially on the H street in the northeast neighborhood) completely transformed itself than it did a few years ago... A few years ago, you wouldnt dare to walk at night... but now, it is laughable to think that the area was once a "no no".

    I am curious to see if there has been substantial business growth in the Baltimore...

    I also read somewhere that many Baltimore natives are starting to move to Columbia... to be honest, I can see a difference in that now than it was a few years ago... I guess gentrification is happening in Baltimore.... but a total transformation certainly will take a while.
    Amen-
    True there are whole areas of bad parts...

    But there are swaths of areas completely transformed from the time of the last superbowl to this superbowl (Canton, HarborEast, CharlesVillage, Patterson Park, Butchers Hill, Mt Vernon, Bolton Hill etc etc)...
    Whole areas that I cant afford to buy into and beautiful areas of the city that any family can afford to buy a house and would want to live.

    Its a shame that there were a few incidents that cast a negative light on Baltimore.
    There are places in Harford, Howard (Columbia), Anne Arundel and Baltimore County that I definitely feel uneasy and lock my car door.
    But as a whole, despite the lack of police presence and the unorganized mob running after Ray Lewis... the city did well. 200,000 people on a Tuesday is no joke.
    Im sure that we will do better next year after our next Superbowl win.

    And Ray didnt seem scared being chased by crowd of 75,000 plus (and I bet that they all werent City folk running after him).




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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    Um, does anyone think Bisciotti's 30k people comment was just a joke?

    That's how I took it. I think he figured the place would be PACKED.
    Did he say that on TV? I was not able to watch the parade. Just read that on Twitter so I took it at face value. If he said it at the parade, I would agree that it was probably a joke. My bad.




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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    I was in 126, and while there was a lot of frustration with people standing in the aisles and concourse's, I didn't experience anything like the letter writer did. I hope she's exagerating, but who knows. I will say there was not nearly enough SAFE staff at the stadium. Usually there is someone at every concourse keeping people from standing on the steps and blocking ingress/egress. That definitely did not happen yesterday.

    All things considered though, I think Baltimore did okay. As others have said, other places have fared a lot worse in recent years.
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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhcforlife View Post
    Did he say that on TV? I was not able to watch the parade. Just read that on Twitter so I took it at face value. If he said it at the parade, I would agree that it was probably a joke. My bad.
    At the stadium, Bisciotti opened by saying on the plane back from NO, when talking to Kevin Byrne, Kevin thought there might be 30,000 people at the stadium, and Steve said "what if there's more than 30,000?", and Kevin said "I guess we'll have to open the upper deck". He then noted that they FILLED the Upper Deck.

    Honestly, I have to imagine that was a joke. Steve Bisciotti HAD to have known that more than 70k people were going to show to a victory parade. There was 200,000 in 2000. Not like our franchise has gotten LESS popular since then.

    EDIT - Had Kevin and Steve backwards. KEVIN, according to the story, thought they'd have 30,000. Still think it was a joke
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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    I think Bisciotti meant 30k in the stadium. This estimate didn't include the people on the parade route, at least that is how I took it.




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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensDomination View Post
    I think Bisciotti meant 30k in the stadium. This estimate didn't include the people on the parade route, at least that is how I took it.
    Still, I have to think Bisciotti knew that the place would be full. As we saw from the pics taken after they shut the gates, people following the parade back took to SCALING the gates to try to get in.

    Absolute pandemonium!

    I hate to say this, because it would exclude me most likely as a non-PSL owner...But in the future, they probably should make it so that PSL owners can request tickets based on their number of PSLs, and whatever's left will be distributed among the general public (either have a "lottery" like they did for the Mustang Stadium practice, or have it so the first X people to the gate without tickets are allowed in, everyone else will be turned away). Then, they should also have screens setup to project the feed from inside the stadium to the crowd outside.

    Or, have it be another 50-50 style lottery like with the Facility TC practices, where half the tickets go to PSL owners, other half goes to non-PSL owners.
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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    Quote Originally Posted by Random Thoughts View Post
    I also read somewhere that many Baltimore natives are starting to move to Columbia....
    That's only after buying white bread and putting in the back seat of the new minivan.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensDomination View Post
    I think Bisciotti meant 30k in the stadium. This estimate didn't include the people on the parade route, at least that is how I took it.
    Yeah. I think that he thought that the majority of people would be along the parade route... Or thought it would be close to the attendance of the Ravens practice at the stadium in August.




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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    For some reason I feel the need to counteract the negative here. My two buddies and I brought our children to the stadium and got excellent seats right up front in section 203. Great views of the stage, and no obstruction for the kiddos. We had two seven year olds, two four year olds, and a three year old and could not have had a better time. EVERYONE was beyond respectful/patient with the kids. One lady poured them hot chocolate from her thermos. Excellent time, and I am beyond proud of the fans in that area of the stadium. It was 100% celebration and 0% crap.




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    I was in that section and was there when they opened the gate at 9:45. Did not see or here anything like that and in fact there were plenty of seats still open for a good hour




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    I agree with NOLA and Zisi. Some of you are really blowing this out of proportion. There obviously were a couple of bad incidents (thanks for confirming kronus), but I'm telling you that 99.9% of the people in the stadium had a fantastic time and enjoyed one another's company immensely. I'm going to remember the shit eating grins on the faces of thousands of Ravens fans for a good long spell!

    Quit trying to make a disaster based on a couple of isolated incidents out of what was really an excellent time. If you were there you would know the truth.
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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    Getting back to the original post - i was up in sec 511 and could see commotion in these lower sections 120 or so, with people climbing up the ramp walls and police not able to get through due to the crowd there.




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    Re: Apparently shocking incident in the sections near Gate A

    I didn't have any issues either...but you have seen the insanity that went on, right? If there were a couple bad sections, that is STILL a problem. If it'd happened in your section, you'd be pissed, right?

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4950978745814

    Watching that video, and seeing that once a couple made it up the fence, a THRONG joined them...And you hear people screaming "OPEN THE GATES!!!!!". It didn't turn into a mob scene, but it could've very quickly....
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