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Thread: Who to keep
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02-07-2013, 06:20 PM #121
Re: Who to keep
Here's how I see the priorities:
1) Flacco (show him the money)
2) Ellerbe (we lack depth at ILB - draft ILB in rounds 1 - 3)
3) Boldin (I predict a contract extension)
4) Reed (need that leadership in the defense now that Ray is gone - but needs to be a reasonable deal)
5) Jacoby (Another contract extension)
6) McKinnie (1 - 2 year deal - draft replacement LT)
Gone:
1) Kruger
2) Cary Williams
3) Bobby Williams (cut)
4) Birk (retirement)
5) Leach (really hate to see him go but too much money for a FB - hopefully, he takes a cut)
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Re: Who to keep
Did not know that.
Yeah I think that's realistic. And having read today that Oz isn't going to re-do the cap-heavy Ngata and Suggs deals (though I had read elsewhere they would, but I think that was all just speculation) then there really isn't even a theoretical way to get close to even this discounted (from what he's talking) deal for Kruger. And I agree, Indy is probably the leader for him.
Sounds about right. It'll probably be like Ray where he comes back without the offers he's hoping for, and we end up paying him above and beyond the market, just to keep the peace.
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02-07-2013, 06:24 PM #123
Re: Who to keep
Hopefully we can find some gold for the defense this year in the draft by getting a starter or 2. We could potentially lose Lewis, Kruger, Reed, Wiliams and Ellerbe(all starters); plus no one is mentioning Art Jones is a RFA and Kemoeatu is a UFA(who started much of the year). Kemoeatu wasn't great but he was cheap. I don't have any confidence in Cody after this year. Obviously Ellerbe is the most likely to resign a CAP friendly deal.
This is a challenging year for Ozzie and with a little luck we'll contend next year. I think we'll go after a ILB, safety or NT early (depending on if Reed is back). Sounds like there's some decent MLBs out there. Do we move up to get someone who is capable of starting?
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Re: Who to keep
McClellan a likely? He's been an occasional starter for us the past two years, so there is no way we wouldn't pony up the $500-$600k to keep him around...
Bryan Hall is a valuable guy as well.
Of those 9 guys you have listed, I would think that 6-7 make the 2013 roster. These aren't toss away players. I think one out of Brown/Levine make it and at least one out of Allen/Rainey/Berry make it. McClellan, Bynes, and Hall are locks for the 2013 roster IMO, barring injury. Hamilton is not a lock, but close.
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Re: Who to keep
The Ravens have a bunch of young, unproven safeties in Christian Thompson/Cook/Levine/Brown. Thompson is all but certain to make the team given he was a draft pick while the other three were undrafted (just the Ravens' track record). Assuming that Reed is back or we draft Elam/Vaccaro/Reid/Rambo, that leaves 3 safety spots taken and Cook/Levine/Brown fighting for one, mayyyybe two, spots. Also, if the Ravens don't bring back Reed, I wouldn't be shocked to see Ighedibo back as a veteran insurance policy.
So our safety situation looks like
Pollard
Elam/Vacarro/Rambo/Reid
Ighedibo
Christian Thomspon
1 or 0 out of Levine/Brown/Cook
or
Reed
Pollard
Christian Thompson
Draft Pick/Ighedibo
Levine/Cook/Brown
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Re: Who to keep
Safety will be the biggest position to watch this year. Probably even more than LB.
The Ravens have a bunch of young, unproven safeties in Christian Thompson/Cook/Levine/Brown. Thompson is all but certain to make the team given he was a draft pick while the other three were undrafted (just the Ravens' track record). Assuming that Reed is back or we draft Elam/Vaccaro/Reid/Rambo, that leaves 3 safety spots taken and Cook/Levine/Brown fighting for one, mayyyybe two, spots. Also, if the Ravens don't bring back Reed, I wouldn't be shocked to see Ighedibo back as a veteran insurance policy.
So our safety situation looks like this:
Pollard
Elam/Vacarro/Rambo/Reid
Ighedibo
Christian Thomspon
1 or 0 out of Levine/Brown/Cook
or
Reed
Pollard
Christian Thompson
Draft Pick/Ighedibo
Levine/Cook/Brown
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Re: Who to keep
Aside from a few Sports Illustrated stories and ESPN pieces, this has never been proven to be true. Their research methods that they use to determine this type of info are highly questionable. It's always easy to pick out 8-10 former NFLers (like C-Mac or J-Lew) and use them as the poster children for athletes who are stupid with their money and go broke. You then mislead your audience into thinking 80% of the football population is like that.
If that was the case, where's the stories about Testaverde, Dilfer, Grbac, Boller, Heap, Mulitalo, Ogden, Mike Flynn, Kelly Gregg, Boulware, Sharper, Woodson, Siragusa, Sam Adams, etc????
We hear the extreme cases of people being knuckleheads with their money and it's easy to think that's the norm, when it's not. I'm pretty sure if you looked into Testaverde's or Woodson's or Ogden's or Boulware's or Heap's accounts/assets, you'd see millions, if not tens of millions.
If anything, the 4/5th or 3/4ths that you hear about are NFLers who play for 1-3 years and make no more than $1.5 million over the course of their NFL journey. Reed has probably made over $50 million.
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02-07-2013, 07:54 PM #131Veteran Poster
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Re: Who to keep
I think the minimum salary for a 4th year player is like $715,000 in 2013.
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