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    Re: No ring for Cam!



    Cam's gotta get one




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    I don't see how you can't give him one. That would be a completely dick move. The Ravens aren't that type of organization.
    To me, that'd be like giving a Christmas bonus to a sales guy you fired for not hitting his goals.

    Not to mention if it were me, I wouldn't want a ring from a team that fired me for thinking I wasn't good enough.
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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    I don't see how you can't give him one. That would be a completely dick move. The Ravens aren't that type of organization.
    Agreed.

    And while there is certainly merit to the "holding the offense back" theory, I do feel that for at least Joe's first 2 years, Cam did a hell of a job protecting Joe and helping his development his first couple years.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    I don't see how you can't give him one. That would be a completely dick move. The Ravens aren't that type of organization.


    GOTA drops mic.

    /thread closed




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    I don't see how you can't give him one. That would be a completely dick move. The Ravens aren't that type of organization.
    Agreed.

    And while there is certainly merit to the "holding the offense back" theory, I do feel that for at least Joe's first 2 years, Cam did a hell of a job protecting Joe and helping his development his first couple years.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    To me, that'd be like giving a Christmas bonus to a sales guy you fired for not hitting his goals.

    Not to mention if it were me, I wouldn't want a ring from a team that fired me for thinking I wasn't good enough.
    He was on the staff at one point during the year. The cost of the ring is nothing to Biscioitti.




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    He was on the staff at one point during the year. The cost of the ring is nothing to Biscioitti.
    Yes, and he was fired. FIRED. F.I.R.E.D FIRED

    Would you expect your company to send you a Christmas bonus after you got shit-canned mid-year?
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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    I personally wouldn't give him one if it were up to me, but I won't lose any sleep or bicker over it if he does get one. Either way, the RAVENS ARE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Yes, and he was fired. FIRED. F.I.R.E.D FIRED

    Would you expect your company to send you a Christmas bonus after you got shit-canned mid-year?
    No. But he's not getting cash. The ring is a symbol of those who were on the team for the entire run.

    He's basically getting a trophy that symbolizes he was part of the team. We are a class organization and I'd expect nothing less from them.
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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Yes, and he was fired. FIRED. F.I.R.E.D FIRED

    Would you expect your company to send you a Christmas bonus after you got shit-canned mid-year?
    It's different though. He was a part of the team even though he was fired. I was one of the biggest proponents of firing Cam, but he did contribute a lot to the team. Especially in developing Flacco early in his career. Flacco and the offense just reached their limit with Cam.




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    count me in on the "he doesn't deserve a ring" camp. How many other championships did he hold us back from winning?




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    It's different though. He was a part of the team even though he was fired. I was one of the biggest proponents of firing Cam, but he did contribute a lot to the team. Especially in developing Flacco early in his career. Flacco and the offense just reached their limit with Cam.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    No. But he's not getting cash. The ring is a symbol of those who were on the team for the entire run.

    He's basically getting a trophy that symbolizes he was part of the team. We are a class organization and I'd expect nothing less from them.
    Okay, so forget the cash, how bout a sales man of the year plaque?

    I think he will get one too. But if it were up to me I wouldn't do it. Thanks for helping develop Flacco for the early years, but we fired you because we didn't think we couldn't do what we got this ring for with you here...

    Like I said, it may be just me and that's fine, but I would not give him one.
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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Cam may have held us back (I think that is apparent now), but the man still helped Joe and the offense develop when it was just starting out five years ago. And the plays we used to win the SB were a lot of HIS plays, no? Plus it's not like he's been bitter since he got fired. On the contrary, he's openly supported us.

    It's not only classy but logical for Cam to get a ring. He's not a bad dude and actually laid a lot of foundation for us.




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Okay, so forget the cash, how bout a sales man of the year plaque?

    I think he will get one too. But if it were up to me I wouldn't do it. Thanks for helping develop Flacco for the early years, but we fired you because we didn't think we couldn't do what we got this ring for...

    Like I said, it may be just me and that's fine, but I would not give him one.
    What really benefit do you have of not giving him one? Bisciotti is worth 1.5 billion. Do you think he really cares that he gave out another ring? The cost of these rings is a drop in the bucket.

    I just don't see the benefit of not giving him one. Makes your organization look bad.




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    Re: No ring for Cam!

    "Hey Mr. Cameron, is that a Superbowl Ring in your trophy case?"

    "Yes it is little Bobby! I was coaching the Ravens and we were 1-4 in December. They fired me and Joe Flacco stopped throwing interceptions and started farting touchdowns like they were going out of style. After they fired me they never lost again and won the whole thing. The owner gave me this ring because I was part of the team for most of the year."

    "...Wow"

    "...Yup"

    "... So you must feel a little less of a man every time you look at that."

    "...Yup. Looking at that ring pretty much turns me into a soprano."




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