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02-05-2013, 11:35 PM #49
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02-06-2013, 12:13 AM #50
Re: Merril Hoge: "Flacco best QB in the NFL"
I expect an overall letdown as that's usually the norm--champs rarely repeat.
However, that's usually true with teams that return largely unchanged; since there's going to be considerable turnover with our roster, on both sides of the ball, there's no telling what might happen next year.
Of course, that's always true to an extent, but this season is the one with a substantial degree of uncertainty--which has the potential to go either way, good or bad for us.
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02-06-2013, 12:13 AM #51Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Merril Hoge: "Flacco best QB in the NFL"
Just for chuckles and a Tim Hasselback(sp?) thread tie-in, I saw Hoge and Timmy on ESPN earlier this evening, where Hoge went through his top 10, for right now, with Flacco leading the list.
Timmy just about pooped in his diaper. And watching their banter and Timmy's tirade, even SWMBO had to admit that Timmy probably is not just parroting the network "con" line to Hoge's "pro", he looks legitimately and visibly upset that anyone will speak positively about Flacco. Even earlier in the show, you could see him getting his panties in a wad with Hoge and the female host/moderator over Flacco. Timmy's either got a screw or two loose, or there's something going on behind the scenes.
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02-06-2013, 09:12 AM #52Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Merril Hoge: "Flacco best QB in the NFL"
I agree that we should not be upset at people for changing their mind (hell, Flacco went from 12th to 6th in my rankings in the last 5 weeks). I think we all just know that this specific person is a douche with no (professional) integrity. For example, Scott Van Pelt admitted that he was wrong about Flacco, and I'm assuming everyone was fine with it.
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02-06-2013, 09:21 AM #53Legendary RSR Poster
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02-06-2013, 09:36 AM #54Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Merril Hoge: "Flacco best QB in the NFL"
I like your system; well thought out.
Tier 4: A lot of people immediately elevated these guys to a higher tier, but I like where you put them for two main reasons.
1. Cam's second year sure didn't look like his first, did it? Who is to say whether RGIII and the others will be as exceptional in their future years.
2. NFL DCs are going to spend the next 6 months developing and practicing strategies to stop the type of offense these "next breed" QBs are running. While it may not die quickly like the Wildcat did, I think it may be relegated to just a part of their offenses, rather than the focus of such. That will especially be true if another gets injured like RGIII did.Last edited by JStruds; 02-06-2013 at 09:41 AM. Reason: Wasn't Finished
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02-06-2013, 09:39 AM #55
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02-06-2013, 10:12 AM #56Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Merril Hoge: "Flacco best QB in the NFL"
Here is my list. I agree with Gabrosin's categorization and think that was a nice job, but if I had to give an actual ranking, this is how I'd do it.
1) Aaron Rodgers
2) Tom Brady
3) Peyton Manning
4) Drew Brees
5) Ben Roethlisberger
6) Eli Manning
7) Joe Flacco (show me more consistency in the regular season next year, Joe, and you're in the top 5, maybe even top 3)
8) Matt Ryan
I'm no Ryan fan, but I think #8 is about right for him.
After those 8, I really don't know how to rank the rest. You have your established vets (Rivers, Romo, Schaub) and a boatload of young, mobile guys with oodles of potential ( Luck, RG3, Wilson, Newton, Kaepernick, Dalton) and also have two former #1 picks (Bradford, Stafford) who are decent QBs too. Then there are still guys like Freeman, Ponder, and Locker who aren't even in the top 1/2 of the QB pool, but still are young, promising players.
The QB talent in our league right now is through the roof.
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02-06-2013, 10:41 AM #58Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Merril Hoge: "Flacco best QB in the NFL"
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02-06-2013, 10:44 AM #59Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Merril Hoge: "Flacco best QB in the NFL"
Gabrosin--
You have done a wonderful thing, IMO, by starting your post with,
"The tiered approach is the best way to evaluate QBs, because you can nitpick between them based on the standards you are choosing. Do you want the most accomplished QB, or the one that gives you the best chance to win this year, or the one you would build a franchise around if you were drafting a team from scratch? Joe is not at the top of any of those questions, but if you're looking for a confluence of the three he can be surprisingly high up there."
This type of preamble should be mandatory in the future on any thread that purports to discuss who is the "best" QB. A similarly constructed paragraph should also be requried for any threads on "power rankings; "best or #1" receiver; "best" RB; "best" Head Coach (or OC, or DC); etc. I'd also demand it when "so and so is 'better' than this guy or that" discussions.
Merci beaucoup! ;)
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02-06-2013, 10:52 AM #60
Re: Merril Hoge: "Flacco best QB in the NFL"
Wow a lot of hating of Hoge for changing his mind. Hoge has trashed Joe and the Ravens for a long time, yes (I've also seen him been complimentary, saying Joe is the best deep ball thrower in the league). But this post season Joe went out and proved his the best QB in the game right now. If Hoge had continued to hate he would be delusional. If anything he's acknowledging what did this post season. A men does have a right to change his mind. Especially when faced with one of the greatest QB post season performances of all time.
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