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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    It's the freaking media...they sensationalize EVERYONE and EVERYTHING ... We are one of the only 2 remaining relevant NFL teams. There are going to be positive AND negative stories about both teams. Unfortunately, Ray's story is dominating everything and it's completely warped the opinions of the entirety of the media coverage...if this Ray story never came out, the only other negative story to come out of Baltimore is Joe's "retarded" comment...which was a story for like 15 minutes.
    Agreed.

    Which then begs the larger question. If someone truly believes the media is this nasty, biased entity totally out to screw everything Ravens, why on Earth are so many fans seeking validation from them?

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    Re: What is really with the national angst about the Ravens/Baltimore? (long)

    What I see as the difference is not how much negative stuff there is on Baltimore or the Ravens. It's how much there isn't on the 49er's.

    Joe says "retarded" and it's the top link on ESPN's NFL page, Mike and Mike are talking about it etc. 49er's CB says in a very intelligent way... that he would not like gay men in the locker room, and next to nothing.

    That's just one example, but if anyone could find other negative articles on the 9er's I'd like to seem them, but I'd bet it's probably 10 to 1.
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    Re: What is really with the national angst about the Ravens/Baltimore? (long)

    There is definitely some anti-Raven bias, and I think it's mostly because of what somebody else already said - that many picked against us for what was in their mind "valid" reasons(mostly because they harped too much on the 1-4 crap not even knowing that we rested our starters in the final game), and that the absolutely hate being wrong. It starts getting a little personal for them because fans fire back at them for picking against their team.

    Again, the parallels to the 2000 season and 2001 superbowl are remarkable. Hopefully the eeriness continues




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    4000+ reporters covering 2 teams for the biggest sporting event of the year, everything players says and do will be under an extreme microscope.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    What I see as the difference is not how much negative stuff there is on Baltimore or the Ravens. It's how much there isn't on the 49er's.

    Joe says "retarded" and it's the top link on ESPN's NFL page, Mike and Mike are talking about it etc. 49er's CB says in a very intelligent way... that he would not like gay men in the locker room, and next to nothing.

    That's just one example, but if anyone could find other negative articles on the 9er's I'd like to seem them, but I'd bet it's probably 10 to 1.
    So there should be a fairness quota?!

    All of the stories thus far should have been reported on and have been. Rays stuff, Joe using the R word, the Niners CB gay comments all deserved to be reported on.

    And on every topic, you can google good and bad articles on both teams.

    There's a link to a bad Niners article on the boards right now about how their fans are violent animals.
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    Re: What is really with the national angst about the Ravens/Baltimore? (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    What I see as the difference is not how much negative stuff there is on Baltimore or the Ravens. It's how much there isn't on the 49er's.

    Joe says "retarded" and it's the top link on ESPN's NFL page, Mike and Mike are talking about it etc. 49er's CB says in a very intelligent way... that he would not like gay men in the locker room, and next to nothing.

    That's just one example, but if anyone could find other negative articles on the 9er's I'd like to seem them, but I'd bet it's probably 10 to 1.
    Besides the Ray Lewis stuff, and Joe Flacco, what other "negative" stuff is there?

    The 49ers don't have a player who admitted to dealing with shady, moron who peddles supplements that at least are advertised as containing illegal substances. If they did, you can bet it would be out there and it would be an ongoing story.

    And Cullivers comments are on NFL.com and ESPN.com's front page right now, and they were front and center last night.

    The Ed Reed story is not "negative", the Art Modell HOF stuff is not "negative".

    Everybody is not picking against us.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Great piece right now on ESPN about how the Ravens are finding their inspiration ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Joe says "retarded" and it's the top link on ESPN's NFL page, Mike and Mike are talking about it etc. 49er's CB says in a very intelligent way... that he would not like gay men in the locker room, and next to nothing.
    Not only was the Culliver story one of the top links yesterday, his apology is the top link right now.

    I'm glad the players are chill about all this stuff, because a lot of people here have gone off the deep end.




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    Quote Originally Posted by moose10101 View Post
    Not only was the Culliver story one of the top links yesterday, his apology is the top link right now.

    I'm glad the players are chill about all this stuff, because a lot of people here have gone off the deep end.
    It was also on Mike and Mike so I don't know where people are getting the idea that nobody is paying attention to it, but they were paying SO MUCH attention to Joe's.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: What is really with the national angst about the Ravens/Baltimore? (long)

    Well if it means anything the SF Gay comment topped Drudge Report for several hours yesterday and is still floating near the top. Flacco wasn't mentioned there and Ray's story fell quickly.

    Simply put, media types tend to flow in the direction of the largest audience (I know - I work in TV). San Fran is a larger West Coast city with a larger national following, and a nicer national image. Baltimore is known for "That evil Ray Lewis", "Stealing the Browns" and The Wire.

    Take the opportunity to relish in their defeat, if / when it occurs. Also with Ray's retirement, the lightning rod that is his history and public persona will step away from the Ravens, and those who wish to hate will find it harder to do so.




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    Front page of CBSSports.com, a very pro Ravens piece about how the younger players have helped propel the Ravens defense this season.

    Even Pete Prisco has a complimentary piece on the Ravens.

    And, as someone has linked to in a previous thread, Ravens are front page on the New York Times with an excellent piece on Bisciotti.
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    Re: What is really with the national angst about the Ravens/Baltimore? (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Besides the Ray Lewis stuff, and Joe Flacco, what other "negative" stuff is there?

    The 49ers don't have a player who admitted to dealing with shady, moron who peddles supplements that at least are advertised as containing illegal substances. If they did, you can bet it would be out there and it would be an ongoing story.

    And Cullivers comments are on NFL.com and ESPN.com's front page right now, and they were front and center last night.

    The Ed Reed story is not "negative", the Art Modell HOF stuff is not "negative".

    Everybody is not picking against us.
    I think you stumbled onto something...

    It's really just Ray Lewis.

    Look at the articles in last 24 hours..."Ray Lewis announced retirement so you could thank him", "Ray Lewis: PED accusation is a trick of the devil", "Amani Toomer unloads on Ray Lewis"

    Basically, the media has leveled itself at Ray Lewis.

    The problem (? if you think it may be one), is that nothing else on the team is generating much news.

    This may actually be a good thing. They are just PISSING him off to no end. And the team knows what this run is about. They are doing this for themselves yes, but in a large way, they want to send Ray off well. And this is going to resonate with them.

    The media wants to piss on Ray Lewis' Cheerios. They want to knock him down a peg. Maybe or maybe not he deserves it with the things he says. But the team doesn't like it, I've seen that on twitter. KO posted on twitter...

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    It saddens me that people judge a man's character based on rumors and inaccurate information. Ray is one of the greatest men I've ever met.
    The team is going to use this as fuel.
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    Re: What is really with the national angst about the Ravens/Baltimore? (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    So there should be a fairness quota?!

    All of the stories thus far should have been reported on and have been. Rays stuff, Joe using the R word, the Niners CB gay comments all deserved to be reported on.

    And on every topic, you can google good and bad articles on both teams.

    There's a link to a bad Niners article on the boards right now about how their fans are violent animals.
    Come on, I am not saying there should be a fairness quota. I think there should be an accuracy quota, but that's another topic.

    When I say negative, I am talking about the PFT, Forbes article saying Ray is guilty because Lance Armstrong denied PED's and Barry Bonds found the fountain of youth late in his career, so that means Ray likely used goat horn spray to recover from a torn triceps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Besides the Ray Lewis stuff, and Joe Flacco, what other "negative" stuff is there?

    The 49ers don't have a player who admitted to dealing with shady, moron who peddles supplements that at least are advertised as containing illegal substances. If they did, you can bet it would be out there and it would be an ongoing story.

    And Cullivers comments are on NFL.com and ESPN.com's front page right now, and they were front and center last night.

    The Ed Reed story is not "negative", the Art Modell HOF stuff is not "negative".

    Everybody is not picking against us.
    I didn't say people were "picking on us".. I said there are more negative stories on us than the 9er's.

    It may be a majority of PFT like carp, but it's there.

    Quote Originally Posted by moose10101 View Post
    Not only was the Culliver story one of the top links yesterday, his apology is the top link right now.

    I'm glad the players are chill about all this stuff, because a lot of people here have gone off the deep end.
    Right, one of the top links, not thee top link. And his apology, is the second to top right now.
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    Scally, I just listed three pro Ravens pieces that have nothing to do with Ray Lewis.
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    Re: What is really with the national angst about the Ravens/Baltimore? (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Scally, I just listed three pro Ravens pieces that have nothing to do with Ray Lewis.
    Yes, and I'm sure there are some talking heads who do like the Ravens...I didn't say "nobody likes the rest of the team" or "nobody is writing anything on anyone else"

    the MAJORITY of the press are finding the negative stories on him and focusing there. I think we see it mainly on PFT, but it could really go for the whole offseason. Ashley Fox on ESPN. The Denver Post writers. The New England billboard.
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