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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Neither did Lance Armstrong.

    And the league doesn't do random PED testing on everyone, just those who fail the big test before training camp.
    Cycling =/= NFLPA. The NFLPA and the NFL agreed on certain testing which Ray has passed. Until a positive test is shown, they can't say Ray is guilty.




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uli2001 View Post
    The media is either incredibly gullible, incredibly lazy, or incredibly dishonest, or perhaps all three, to propagate something like this as a big story without checking any of it. You watch some of the "reporters" and "experts" on TV talking about this and you just cringe.
    These guys will go to print with anything. They don't even check. Later they'll just say 'whoops' and try to blame it on some other reporter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Any way you slice it....this doesn't sound good at all.

    It's going to hang over Ray and the team for this entire week.

    And frankly, so many people have wanted to believe Ray was on something that this will be a big black mark on the ending of his career whether this is true or not.

    Very disappointing IMHO....very.
    Assuming the tape is authentic, very disappointing.

    SMH.
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  4. #94

    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Ray was asked about the Murders and basically said it's not the time

    Warren Sapp was pissed it was asked (as if it wouldn't be)




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Assuming the tape is authentic, very disappointing.

    SMH.
    is the tape not from two years ago? Or was he dumb enough to be recorded on tape twice?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Cycling =/= NFLPA. The NFLPA and the NFL agreed on certain testing which Ray has passed. Until a positive test is shown, they can't say Ray is guilty.
    There's one big test at the beginning of the training camps. They test for everything. If you pass that one, you're good for the next year. Fail it, and you're subject to random testing.

    It's the agreed upon process by the union and the league. He would have been better off taking hGH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    is the tape not from two years ago? Or was he dumb enough to be recorded on tape twice?
    He's only tore his triceps once so I am assuming its recent.
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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    I just find it hard to believe he would personally call this guy. I mean really, celebrities have people do things for them.

    I also find it funny that this doesn't come out until literally media day of the SB. I mean come on...it was obviously held back intentionally.

    If there is such rock solid evidence against him, I doubt he would have been allowed to return.

    Why allow him to play not one, not two, but three playoff games???? They could have easily started an investigation and made a decision by now, yet nothing official from the league.




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    He's only tore his triceps once so I am assuming its recent.
    So they've recorded him twice? Supposedly.

    Why wouldn't they release the tape and the accusations at the same time?




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    He's only tore his triceps once so I am assuming its recent.
    You assume too much. This story looks like a heap of refuse, until proven otherwise.




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    apparently it's not innocent until proven guilty anymore... smh




  12. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uli2001 View Post
    This story looks like a heap of refuse, until proven otherwise.
    I hope so... But where there's smoke, there's fire.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    apparently it's not innocent until proven guilty anymore... smh
    That's only in the Court of Law. In general population, it's the opposite.




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    So they've recorded him twice? Supposedly.

    Why wouldn't they release the tape and the accusations at the same time?
    The SI authors make it appear that they heard the tape and interviewed Ray about it -- and that he confirmed using SWATs (not deer antler spray specifically). There is no test that Ray failed for a banned substance and there is no definitive way to prove (absent video evidence, witness testimony or Ray's admission) that Ray used the spray. So we are going to be left with a mess where Ray cannot be suspended, the haters will continue to hate and the rest of us have to shake our heads at this bizarre story.




  15. #105

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    The article says he called the guy after he tore his triceps against the Cowboys on October 14th.

    David Epstein and George Dohrmann write that S.W.A.T.S. owner Mitch Ross recorded a phone conversation with Lewis after the linebacker's injury in October.

    Hours after he tore his triceps during an Oct. 14 home game against the Cowboys, Ravens All-Pro linebacker Ray Lewis and Ross connected on the phone. Again, Ross videotaped the call.

    On the call, the two allegedly discuss the treatment that Lewis would undergo in order to return to the field as quickly as possible.

    Ross prescribed a deluxe program, including holographic stickers on the right elbow; copious quantities of the powder additive; sleeping in front of a beam-ray light programmed with frequencies for tissue regeneration and pain relief; drinking negatively charged water; a 10-per-day regimen of the deer-antler pills that will "rebuild your brain via your small intestines" (and which Lewis said he hadn't been taking, then swallowed four during the conversation); and spritzes of deer-antler velvet extract (the Ultimate Spray) every two hours.

    "Spray on my elbow every two hours?" Lewis asked.

    "No," Ross said, "under your tongue."

    Toward the end of the talk, Lewis asked Ross to "just pile me up and just send me everything you got, because I got to get back on this this week."

    The deer-antler spray contains IGF-1, which is on the NFL's list of banned substances. Christopher Key - one of the S.W.A.T.S. guys - described the company's products to a group of Alabama football players before the BCS National Championship in 2012. He recorded the conversation.

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