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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...



    The NFL has some of the biggest freaks of nature and no one really questions it.

    It raises suspicion when you recover much faster from an injury that "should" take longer, but with modern medicine/surgery improving every day, traditional recovery times may be outdated.

    Look at Adrian Peterson. And Suggs. Even Peyton - his career was possibly over, and he puts up MVP numbers.

    I'll bet Suggs somehow ends up being implicated too. Just because that's how these stories seem to develop.




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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkmormon View Post
    True, but it could hurt his legacy, at least outside of the Baltimore area.
    In the court of public opinion...especially nationally...it's already done a ton of damage.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkmormon View Post
    True, but it could hurt his legacy, at least outside of the Baltimore area.
    Most people outside of Baltimore already can't stand him and think he is a murderer anyway.




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    If nothing else it will be a needless distraction this week.




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    It is on the front page of SI, so it will get a lot of attention soon...

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...1_a2&eref=sihp




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by drunkmormon View Post
    True, but it could hurt his legacy, at least outside of the Baltimore area.
    In the court of public opinion...especially nationally...it's already done a ton of damage.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    In the court of public opinion...especially nationally...it's already done a ton of damage.
    Amazing how this doesn't leak in October when it was actually recorded, but lands on a dime during SB media day. Wow...imagine that.

    I wonder if we hadn't made it to the SB would this have even come out.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Most people outside of Baltimore already can't stand him and think he is a murderer anyway.
    I live in Atlanta, and can see the street "where it all went down" from my window, so I know many think he is a murderer... but there are plenty who do not.




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    In the court of public opinion...especially nationally...it's already done a ton of damage.
    +1




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    Honestly who gives a shit what everyone outside of our fan base thinks. I know I don't.




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by scbgirlxo View Post
    Honestly who gives a shit what everyone outside of our fan base thinks. I know I don't.
    I don't want the team to be labelled as a cheater because of what Lewis may/may not have taken.




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    Guilty or not, it doesn't matter. People believe what they want and will persecute based off of what supports their bias. I honestly believe that biased Steeler fan base has been so vocal over the years that they are responsible for perpetuating Ray's guilty of murder in the Atlanta incident nationwide. They perpetuate that Ray had the bloody knife is his hand despite known facts. The same hateful fan base is already making noise on this.

    http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums...nned-Substance




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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Amazing how this doesn't leak in October when it was actually recorded, but lands on a dime during SB media day. Wow...imagine that.

    I wonder if we hadn't made it to the SB would this have even come out.
    Haha, no shit. Seriously, what a freaking non-story. Obviously this guy has an agenda, as does Mike Florio. Seriously dudes, deer velvet? Ok then




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    Guilty or not, it doesn't matter. People believe what they want and will persecute based off of what supports their bias. I honestly believe that biased Steeler fan base has been so vocal over the years that they are responsible for perpetuating Ray's guilty of murder in the Atlanta incident nationwide. They perpetuate that Ray had the bloody knife is his hand despite known facts. The same hateful fan base is already making noise on this.

    http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums...nned-Substance
    Really? I've been on message boards for years and not once have I said anything about Ray Lewis being a murderer.




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    It seems like this company goes out of its way to record their conversations with players:

    On the two nights before the Jan. 9, 2012, BCS national championship game, a handful of Alabama players in crimson and gray sweats made their way to room 612 in the New Orleans Marriott. A few brought family members, but most arrived in clusters with teammates. They came in search of an edge.
    The room belonged to Christopher Key, who was in town to demonstrate the wares of S.W.A.T.S. -- Sports with Alternatives to Steroids -- a two-man company run out of the back of a gym near Birmingham.


    Unbeknownst to Crimson Tide coaches, S.W.A.T.S. had an audience with players on the No. 2 team in college football, a gathering that Key taped with a pen camera and showed to SI. He handed out some of the company's products gratis -- "It should never come up, but I'll go to the grave saying you bought this," Key told them -- and one, linebacker Alex Watkins, six months later gave a video testimonial on YouTube citing the boost he got from the chips, water and deer-antler pills during Bama's 21-0 BCS title victory.
    It was a good night for S.W.A.T.S. in its ongoing quest: to land the sort of high-profile endorsement that could propel a two-man -company -- even one that has been shunned, shuttered and successfully sued for $5.4 million, as S.W.A.T.S. has -- into serious profitability.
    Modern science may scoff at holographic stickers and negatively charged water, but that matters little if the right athlete becomes a believer or, better yet, a proselytizer. The boundaries of medical science expand at too glacial a pace for many athletes desperate to enhance their performance. That desperation, in turn, represents a business opportunity for self ordained sports science entrepreneurs operating in the shadowy, multibillion-dollar athletic-supplement industry. Key had given some of S.W.A.T.S.'s chips to LSU players before their 9-6 victory over Alabama in November 2011; that helped him get an audience with the Tide players, who received some of the same S.W.A.T.S. products that outfielder Johnny Damon, golfer Vijay Singh and linebacker Shawne Merriman have used. S.W.A.T.S.'s most famous client, Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis, enters Super Bowl XLVII on Sunday after speaking with Ross in October to request items that would speed his recovery from a torn right triceps.
    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2JO6wRpRc

    Why so eager to have a recording of everything? A pen camera? Really?

    Lewis would be dumb enough to directly call this guy and say "pile it up and send it to me"? Really? He wouldn't insulate himself at all from the transactions? Maybe he will say he didn't see anything wrong with it????

    If IGF-1 is banned and you eat deer antler extract which contains IGF-1, then you just consumed a banned substance. Plain and simple. How could you not think that would come back to bite you?

    Not good to see Merriman listed either.




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