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01-29-2013, 04:23 PM #159Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...
Read the comments:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...1_a2&eref=sihpWay Down South in New Orleans
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Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...
Here is what we know.
Ray did in fact talk to the guy after his injury and asked him to send him some of the "stuff". (Ray admitted to it at the bottom of the SI story).
Lewis had not talked to media for 10 weeks while he rehabbed his injury. Asked by SI if he had worked with Key and Ross during his recovery, he initially demurred. "I didn't work with them personally this time," he said.
When pressed, Lewis said, "Nobody helped me out with the rehab. I've been doing S.W.A.T.S. for a couple years through Hue Jackson, that's it. That's my only connection to them."
Asked if he had talked to Ross the night of his injury, Lewis replied, "I told him to send me some more of the regular stuff, the S.W.A.T.S., the stickers or whatever."
And did they help?
"I think a lot of things helped me."
So would he suggest S.W.A.T.S. to other players?
"If I did, I would've done said it by now," Lewis said. Asked specifically about the spray and the pills, Lewis walked away without comment.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2JOkAiPAA
The question is, did Ray use the antler stuff after he got it. I think the fact that the guy spoke with Ray and sent him a package is pretty much not up for debate. It all depends on if you specifically believe that the guy...
A. Sent him the antler stuff.
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B. Ray said on the phone "do I spray it on my arm or under my tounge".
I get the feeling of needing to defend Ray, but IMHO, objectively looking at this, there is a lot of "evidence". Is it enough to convict if this was a court case? Probably not at least until/unless the phone call is released. If this were any other player, we'd be looking at this from an entirely different perspective.
I'm just saying the "this is bullshit" and "there isn't anything to this story at all" isn't really accurate.Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...
Ray Lewis should sue SI.
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01-29-2013, 04:31 PM #163
Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...
BTW, here's the story from 2 years ago - I'm not really sure that today's news is much different.
Other than the fact, I guess, that if he's been using the stuff for 2 years, he's never tested positive for anything banned.
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/...ny-linked-bannLast edited by B-more Ravor; 01-29-2013 at 04:37 PM.
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01-29-2013, 04:36 PM #164
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Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...
Who contacted who? I've seen reports saying Lewis was calling them, I've seen others that this guy texted Ray and reached out to him first?
It sounds like he used or received some of their products, but again, he's never failed anything. Has a relationship with another type of supplement company I think too, so that could be the reason for some of the denial?.
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Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...
Drew on WNST says that the IGF-1 stuff wasn't illegal 2 years ago.
That may help explain no failed tests.Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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01-29-2013, 04:40 PM #166
Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...
That article from 2011 says that it was banned by the NFL.
One of the S.W.A.T.S. products, "The Ultimate Spray," is labeled as containing deer antler velvet extract. On the company website, swatsteam.com, the spray is said to contain “very delicate and unique nutritional properties … such as IGF-1 and other growth factors.” IGF-1 is banned by the NFL.
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01-29-2013, 04:40 PM #167
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