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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    is the tape not from two years ago? Or was he dumb enough to be recorded on tape twice?
    He's only tore his triceps once so I am assuming its recent.





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    I just find it hard to believe he would personally call this guy. I mean really, celebrities have people do things for them.

    I also find it funny that this doesn't come out until literally media day of the SB. I mean come on...it was obviously held back intentionally.

    If there is such rock solid evidence against him, I doubt he would have been allowed to return.

    Why allow him to play not one, not two, but three playoff games???? They could have easily started an investigation and made a decision by now, yet nothing official from the league.





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    He's only tore his triceps once so I am assuming its recent.
    So they've recorded him twice? Supposedly.

    Why wouldn't they release the tape and the accusations at the same time?





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    He's only tore his triceps once so I am assuming its recent.
    You assume too much. This story looks like a heap of refuse, until proven otherwise.





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    apparently it's not innocent until proven guilty anymore... smh





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uli2001 View Post
    This story looks like a heap of refuse, until proven otherwise.
    I hope so... But where there's smoke, there's fire.





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    apparently it's not innocent until proven guilty anymore... smh
    That's only in the Court of Law. In general population, it's the opposite.





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    So they've recorded him twice? Supposedly.

    Why wouldn't they release the tape and the accusations at the same time?
    The SI authors make it appear that they heard the tape and interviewed Ray about it -- and that he confirmed using SWATs (not deer antler spray specifically). There is no test that Ray failed for a banned substance and there is no definitive way to prove (absent video evidence, witness testimony or Ray's admission) that Ray used the spray. So we are going to be left with a mess where Ray cannot be suspended, the haters will continue to hate and the rest of us have to shake our heads at this bizarre story.





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    The article says he called the guy after he tore his triceps against the Cowboys on October 14th.

    David Epstein and George Dohrmann write that S.W.A.T.S. owner Mitch Ross recorded a phone conversation with Lewis after the linebacker's injury in October.

    Hours after he tore his triceps during an Oct. 14 home game against the Cowboys, Ravens All-Pro linebacker Ray Lewis and Ross connected on the phone. Again, Ross videotaped the call.

    On the call, the two allegedly discuss the treatment that Lewis would undergo in order to return to the field as quickly as possible.

    Ross prescribed a deluxe program, including holographic stickers on the right elbow; copious quantities of the powder additive; sleeping in front of a beam-ray light programmed with frequencies for tissue regeneration and pain relief; drinking negatively charged water; a 10-per-day regimen of the deer-antler pills that will "rebuild your brain via your small intestines" (and which Lewis said he hadn't been taking, then swallowed four during the conversation); and spritzes of deer-antler velvet extract (the Ultimate Spray) every two hours.

    "Spray on my elbow every two hours?" Lewis asked.

    "No," Ross said, "under your tongue."

    Toward the end of the talk, Lewis asked Ross to "just pile me up and just send me everything you got, because I got to get back on this this week."

    The deer-antler spray contains IGF-1, which is on the NFL's list of banned substances. Christopher Key - one of the S.W.A.T.S. guys - described the company's products to a group of Alabama football players before the BCS National Championship in 2012. He recorded the conversation.

    Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/t...#ixzz2JOTC8a8s
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    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.





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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    apparently it's not innocent until proven guilty anymore... smh
    Welcome to the world we now live in.

    Apparently if it's on the internet, it's true.






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    Re: Oh, geez, here it comes (dread)...

    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    So they've recorded him twice? Supposedly.

    Why wouldn't they release the tape and the accusations at the same time?
    What I don't get is why the reporter didn't see the videotape. The stripper told him that he videotaped the call with Ray Lewis. The reporter wrote that and what the stripper told him was on the tape but he never said that he actually viewed the tape. Why use a conversation from a video tape as a source and then not actually view that source?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Uli2001 View Post
    You assume too much. This story looks like a heap of refuse, until proven otherwise.
    Read the article.

    I'm not assuming anything in terms of the SI report.





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