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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkmormon View Post
    An insult is an insult when it is meant as an insult? That is just happy, and I am not referring to homosexuals in any way...
    You should get a little less drunk there, mormon.

    "Gay" in a dictionary sense refers (in addition to "being happy," of course) to homosexuality. That's why gay people/homosexuals refer to themselves as "gay." It's not an insult, to them or by the literal meaning. It's an insult when it's used to describe something bad; e.g., it's common for young folks to say, "That's so gay," not meaning something homosexual, but something they think is dumb/they don't like.

    Reading comprehension ...




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    Oddly enough my wife's best friend has 2 autistic children. I just asked her if she would be offended by what Joe said and he response was "NO".

    It is all about context. To me the idea IS retarded. It is also moronic, stupid, asinine, dumb and any other word you can find that means the same thing.

    Merriam Webster defines retard as.............
    Definition of RETARD
    transitive verb
    1
    : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment : impede
    2
    : to delay academic progress by failure to promote
    intransitive verb
    : to undergo retardation
    — re·tard·er noun
    See retard defined for English-language learners »
    See retard defined for kids »
    Examples of RETARD

    The chemical will retard the spread of fire.
    The problems have retarded the progress of the program.

    Definition of RETARD
    1
    : a holding back or slowing down : retardation
    2
    often offensive : a retarded person; also : a person held to resemble a retarded person in behavior




    It does not have to be offensive when used in the proper context. Do we not have fire RETARDant?




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    When did America turn into a bunch of pussies? You people need to get thicker skin and not give a damn about what people say unless it is directed at you.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dweezil22 View Post
    Am I glad that "retarded" is not considered a publicly polite word anymore? Yes
    Am I pissed at Flacco or do I think he's a bad person for saying it? No
    Did I cringe when I read that he said it? Yes
    +1. I am a board member of an organization that provides assistance to those with developmental disabilities. I also am guilty, in my younger days of using words such as this in a perjorative context. I think the vast majority of us, especially men, used "retarded" or "gay" or "fag" to put down others. The point is, those of us with a modicum of maturity outgrew it. It doesn't make us hate mongerers, we just know better now.

    Joe is still young, but should know better. I think he recognized that the second it came out of his mouth.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens825 View Post
    Oddly enough my wife's best friend has 2 autistic children. I just asked her if she would be offended by what Joe said and he response was "NO".
    OK, good for your wife's best friend. If only your wife's best friend was the only person in the whole world, then the fact she personally is not offended would mean no one else has to/should be.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens825 View Post
    often offensive : a retarded person; also : a person held to resemble a retarded person in behavior
    Cool, so you just ignored this part of the entry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens825 View Post
    It does not have to be offensive when used in the proper context. Do we not have fire RETARDant?
    Was Joe talking about fire retardant? Because THAT would be a "proper context."




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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    When did America turn into a bunch of pussies? You people need to get thicker skin and not give a damn about what people say unless it is directed at you.
    Good question.

    Land of the free, home of the bra.... wait, can I say brave, would other nations take offense because that would mean they're not brave or that they're cowards? Maybe we should change that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post
    You should get a little less drunk there, mormon.

    "Gay" in a dictionary sense refers (in addition to "being happy," of course) to homosexuality. That's why gay people/homosexuals refer to themselves as "gay." It's not an insult, to them or by the literal meaning. It's an insult when it's used to describe something bad; e.g., it's common for young folks to say, "That's so gay," not meaning something homosexual, but something they think is dumb/they don't like.

    Reading comprehension ...
    If you think I am drunk now, then you don't know what an oxy-moron is... I knew exactly what I was saying by using the word happy there.




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    There's alot "soap box" gum bumping coming from this crew. Everyday it's something.




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    I love how everyone is using "dis-abled" as the word to replace retarded. Dis-abled implies they cannot do it at all, whereas the root of the word retarded implies they are slower to do it. The current correct PC word is "less-abled." Get with the times...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    When did America turn into a bunch of pussies? You people need to get thicker skin and not give a damn about what people say unless it is directed at you.
    Sorry, that's not how empathy and basic human compassion works.




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    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post
    Sorry, that's not how empathy and basic human compassion works.
    Neither of which are necessarily neglected with use of the R word.
    “Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post
    OK, good for your wife's best friend. If only your wife's best friend was the only person in the whole world, then the fact she personally is not offended would mean no one else has to/should be.




    Cool, so you just ignored this part of the entry.



    Was Joe talking about fire retardant? Because THAT would be a "proper context."

    No i did not ignore that part of the entry.

    Joe didn't say "anyone who wants to play in the cold is a retard", or "whoever thought of that is retarded or is a retard".

    The idea is retarded. I think it would RETARD peoples desire to go to the game since a lot of people wouldn't want to sit in the freezing cold and snow. My desire to go to the super bowl would be RETARDED if it were in a cold environment instead of a warm one.

    In the event of a snow storm my ability to get to the game would be RETARDED by said snow.

    I may not be the smartest poster on this board and i am far from being the most PC but the world has evolved into a bunch of slack jawed sissies. People used to be blind, now they are visually impaired. The deaf are now hearing impaired. Handicapped are now physically challenged or disabled which should be offensive in itself. When you disable something it is no longer viable.

    Maybe i don't like being called white perhaps i should request all whites be referred to as Pigmentally challenged. I have a pigment imbalance, i am not white.

    Joe didn't call you or anyone else retarded so get the fuck over it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirdowski View Post
    Neither of which are necessarily neglected with use of the R word.
    Even if I agreed with that statement, which I don't, Captain Silver was not being specific to this example. He was broadly stating that people should not care about things unless they personally affect them, which is a statement so morally and historically dubious I don't even know where to start.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens825 View Post
    Joe didn't call you or anyone else retarded so get the fuck over it.
    Yeah, no, see the fun thing about being an individual is that I get to decide what I want to "get the fuck over." Since this isn't one of those things and aggressive language doesn't bother me, you need to bark up a different tree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens825 View Post
    The idea is retarded. I think it would RETARD peoples desire to go to the game since a lot of people wouldn't want to sit in the freezing cold and snow. My desire to go to the super bowl would be RETARDED if it were in a cold environment instead of a warm one.

    In the event of a snow storm my ability to get to the game would be RETARDED by said snow.
    You clearly don't get the point, and that is sad. A post ago you said context is everything. And now you are comparing literal, commonsensical applications of the word "retard" and "retarded" in mundane situations to use of it when it refers to mentally challenged people. Ha. I get the feeling it would be a waste of time to continue talking to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens825 View Post
    People used to be blind, now they are visually impaired. The deaf are now hearing impaired. Handicapped are now physically challenged or disabled
    Boo-fucking-hoo. Your life is so hard. Sometimes you have to say extra syllables.




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    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post
    Boo-fucking-hoo. Your life is so hard. Sometimes you have to say extra syllables.
    The point is, he doesn't have to, nor should he/she.
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