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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money



    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    You've got it confused with the way the board viewed Cam.
    Thank you.




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Terribly sorry for saying Flacco was a good but not great QB after the worst game of his career, I'm really sorry for saying that. Me and 95 % of football fans must be retarded.
    You seriously think that 95% of football fans agreed with you? I see your problem. Faulty vision. And the need to try to justify your faulty vision with unsupported "facts".

    As stated in a previous post...some Ravens fans really just don't get it. You're one of those fans.




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    You seriously think that 95% of football fans agreed with you? I see your problem. Faulty vision. And the need to try to justify your faulty vision with unsupported "facts".

    As stated in a previous post...some Ravens fans really just don't get it. You're one of those fans.
    I just said he's a fucking top 3 QB... Are you blind? And comon dude, just go around other teams message boards, read comment sections, talk to other teams fans etc, do you really think anyone outside of Baltimore was thinking Joe was an elite QB after that Denver game?




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I just said he's a fucking top 3 QB... Are you blind? And comon dude, just go around other teams message boards, read comment sections, talk to other teams fans etc, do you really think anyone outside of Baltimore was thinking Joe was an elite QB after that Denver game?
    Other team's message boards? THAT'S supposed to mean something? How about Cossell's analysis of Joe after having watched every snap of his NFL career and even some college games? How about Jaws? THOSE guys's opinions count. Message boards? Are you serious?!!!

    And stop with the "elite" stuff already. That's a meaningless term that gets tossed around as if it actually means something. Cossell accurately assessed Joe as an above average QB who needed to develop a better pocket presence but who suffered significantly from a poor OC, a poor O-line, and WRs who could not get separation (compounded by poor scheme design). In line with that, aside from a couple of real stiffs, most Ravens fans understood that the inconsistency on the offense was due, for the most part, to:

    1. Cam Cameron
    2. A porous, inconsistent O-line
    3. WRs who did not consistently get separation and/or hold onto the balls Joe threw to them
    4. Some poor decision making on Joe's part

    IN THAT ORDER.

    In context, MOST fans understood that the real quality of Joe Flacco would never be known until Cameron was gone. Other fans did not. You were a part of the "did not" group. And you did it incessantly. So why try to deny that now?
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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    How am I part of that "did not" group? I thought he was an elite QB up until Denver, then said he was just a good player, I never said he was a bad QB or even an average QB.

    I listen to Greg Cossell every week, just for the record.




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    How am I part of that "did not" group? I thought he was an elite QB up until Denver, then said he was just a good player, I never said he was a bad QB or even an average QB.

    I listen to Greg Cossell every week, just for the record.
    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I know a lot of you are going to hate reading this and I will no doubt receive some abuse for this, but it should not be in the Ravens best interest to pay Flacco the money he asked for in the offseason.

    Even franchise tagging him will cost us 14 million for 2013, if we do that, we will need some good picks in the draft if we want any chance at continuing to compete for a championship. I hope Flacco comes back down to earth for what he's worth and takes the offer we gave him in the offseason, or I'm really starting to think if he'll even be a Raven next season. He's a good QB, but he has proven this year that he cannot win games consistently without a supporting cast. We won't be able to give him that supporting cast if he cripples our cap.

    We need to sign a number of players on defense, and concentrate on fixing this offense through the draft because it's a total mess, especially on the Oline. This team needs a complete overhaul in the trenches, and giving Flacco over 100 million over the next few years should not be part of the Ravens long term plans.

    Sorry to say, but it's true, if you think this year has been bad, it's nothing to what would happen in the next few years. At least we've won 9 games and have a very good shot at winning another division title.
    Average = good. And you absolutely said it -- the above quote proves that. So please...just be quiet, okay?




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    Average = good. And you absolutely said it -- the above quote proves that. So please...just be quiet, okay?
    Well done on quoting me on something I just said here. Good job on spending 5 minutes of your life tracking down a post I made back in December, and pretty much proved nothing.

    Average = good
    I suggest you read a dictionary, there is a significant difference in meaning between the two.

    And no, I wont stop posting here, free country pal.




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Well done on quoting me on something I just said here. Good job on spending 5 minutes of your life tracking down a post I made back in December, and pretty much proved nothing.



    I suggest you read a dictionary, there is a significant difference in meaning between the two.

    And no, I wont stop posting here, free country pal.
    And I suggest that any further discourse with you is a total waste of time. (No real surprise there. I've read most of your posts. It's a slam dunk.)




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    And I suggest that any further discourse with you is a total waste of time.
    Lol sour grapes because you couldn't find anything close to me saying Flacco was a bad QB hahaha. Good job. If you're going to scrutinize me for not thinking he was elite in the regular season (I mean lets all just scrutinize everyone's personal opinions on a message board right?!) then fine, thats what my honest opinion was, and numbers do back that opinion up. But to accuse me of thinking Flacco was bad or average, when I never said anything like that, then that's when it becomes a problem to me.




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    No matter what anybody used to think about Flacco, most everybody will admit that he has really grown up in these playoffs. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and everybody is entitled to change their opinion. Flacco is going to be here the next 10 years (bisciotti's words). Nobody on this board is really qualified (billick's word) to put number on his value. He is going to get paid! Whether this year or next.




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    No matter what anybody used to think about Flacco, most everybody will admit that he has really grown up in these playoffs. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and everybody is entitled to change their opinion. Flacco is going to be here the next 10 years (bisciotti's words). Nobody on this board is really qualified (billick's word) to put number on his value. He is going to get paid! Whether this year or next.
    Great post man. Thanks.

    Its as if some people would want you banned for thinking Flacco wasn't elite then back pedaling as if its a viscous crime lol.




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    Re: Flacco asking for Brees type money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    You seriously think that 95% of football fans agreed with you? I see your problem. Faulty vision. And the need to try to justify your faulty vision with unsupported "facts".

    As stated in a previous post...some Ravens fans really just don't get it. You're one of those fans.
    95% probably did think that. There's a lot of football fans who think silly things, like Flacco gets "deer in the headlights" or that he's "inconsistent."




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    Quote Originally Posted by bacchys View Post

    95% probably did think that. There's a lot of football fans who think silly things, like Flacco gets "deer in the headlights" or that he's "inconsistent."
    Absolutely. Hell, the dumb broad that works in the same office I do was talking about benching Flacco after that game and how terrible he was, etc. Really obnoxious.

    Now, Flacco is the next Peyton Manning (according to her) and is better than pretty much any QB not named Rogers.

    Me, I played and have been watching film/breaking down film for a long time. Thats why I dont get worked up over a bad game and I really try to look at each game from a holistic stance.

    Everything effects everything in this sport. Nothing about football is black and white, but people want the easy explanation. The QB is the easiest target. Always has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Absolutely. Hell, the dumb broad that works in the same office I do was talking about benching Flacco after that game and how terrible he was, etc. Really obnoxious.

    Now, Flacco is the next Peyton Manning (according to her) and is better than pretty much any QB not named Rogers.
    This is the maddening thing about casual fans - they are fickle as hell. And ignorant.

    I will say this though - to be considered a great player, you have to do great things, at least in my eyes. Flacco had done some good things in the past, some not so good, but the good certainly outweighed the bad, proven by his win totals. I think that the debates on whether Flacco was "elite" or not occured because he was good enough and had good enough performances to be on the fringe of that discussion. He was a borderline top 10 QB, who showed high promise at times, but was inconsistent. Ironically, most, if not all QB's suffer from inconsistency. Because he was on the border, the question kept being asked "is this guy elite or not?".

    I don't care if Cam Newton, RGIII, Andrew Luck, or Matt Stafford have "promise". They will not be in the discussion of top QB's until they prove it on the field - with wins in big moments.

    When Flacco had that awful game against the Broncos, fans were right to get on him a bit. Throw him under bus, no, but definitely right to wonder if he was going to ever lead his team to a Super Bowl. Yes, he had gotten use there last year for half a second, but after a good start to the season for him, he started to tail off a bit in some eyes. His fumble against Pittsburgh(and I, among others were just getting sick of him fumbling games away against the Steelers). The fumble and int against the Redskins, even though those weren't his fault really, it got people on him(of course they forget he gave the team an 8 point lead on the road with less than 2 minutes to play and the defense couldn't stop a turtle from scoring). It was misguided angst to be sure, but people were angry. Angry that idiots like Skip Bayliss had more ammo to spew his anti-Flacco garbage. Angry that the team was losing it's grip on it's second consecutive division title(my, aren't we spoiled). Angry that idiot Yinzers were making Flacco jokes on ESPN's comment sections. Angry because we were losing.

    Then a funny thing happened. In a huge game against the Giants, Flacco shredded the defense, easily outplaying Eli. Then in the Wildcard round, he torches the Colts with a near record setting performance for yards per completion. Then the lights out performances in Denver and New England, outplaying two of the supposed "most elite" QB's in the NFL today. Joe finally did it - did what some said he never could - lead his team to a Super Bowl.

    In my eyes, and many others, the debate is over. Looking at his body of work(and it's record setting numbers in some cases), and looking at how well he has played over the past month and a half, coming up clutch in the biggest of situations, the truth as I see it is, the guy is one of the best QB's in the league.

    I don't care what happens sunday. I've seen enough, Joe Flacco is one of the best QB's in the NFL, period. And he's gonna get paid like it too.




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    Quote Originally Posted by alienrace View Post
    I don't care what happens sunday. I've seen enough, Joe Flacco is one of the best QB's in the NFL, period. And he's gonna get paid like it too.


    Couldn't agree more.

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