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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)



    It's all in the structure... They did restructure his contract this year, but it just pushes the cap hit out.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-engla...ots/tom-brady/




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    It's all in the structure... They did restructure his contract this year, but it just pushes the cap hit out.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-engla...ots/tom-brady/
    Ah clever. Low cap hit in the early years

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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Check out the highest cap hits in the NFL.

    http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/cap-hit/




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Check out the highest cap hits in the NFL.

    http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/cap-hit/
    What a waste of a pick Tyson Jackson was. A 17 million dollar waste.




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by CptJesus View Post
    The market value was completely different. Not to mention Brady currently gets paid a comparatively low number

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    That's not the point. The point is that both teams were able to maintain their winning ways despite having a lot of money tied up in the QB position.




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Check out the highest cap hits in the NFL.

    http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/cap-hit/
    Wow, 7 of the top 10 cap hits belong to QBs..shocking




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by alienrace View Post
    So in other words, there is near zero chance they'd use the non-exclusive, especially if they are confident a deal will be struck by March 12.
    I'd agree, but I think the real deadline in that scenario is April 17th. That's the point when the exclusive tag is calculated and set in stone. It's at that point that they'll need the additional $5-6M and it's at that point that they would be likely forced to release someone they'd like rather not - Boldin? Jones?
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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    I'd agree, but I think the real deadline in that scenario is April 17th. That's the point when the exclusive tag is calculated and set in stone. It's at that point that they'll need the additional $5-6M and it's at that point that they would be likely forced to release someone they'd like rather not - Boldin? Jones?
    is there a deadline to send retirement papers into the league or they can do whenever? hopefully ray, birk, kemo, etc do it soon or that doesnt affect anything?




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    is there a deadline to send retirement papers into the league or they can do whenever? hopefully ray, birk, kemo, etc do it soon or that doesnt affect anything?
    If the players hasn't yet filed the papers, but the player has "announced" that he is going to retire, the team can put the player on it's "reserved/retired" list, which tolls the player's contract and removes him from the Cap.

    If the player decides to "unretire", then the team has a decision to make - fit him under the Cap or release him.
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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Ravens | Owner wants Joe Flacco signed quickly
    Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:16:04 -0800

    Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti hosted the team's braintrust in Florida last weekend and the theme was how the team can sign impending free-agent QB Joe Flacco as quickly as possible.

    https://twitter.com/mortreport/statu...35492569931776




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Ravens | Owner wants Joe Flacco signed quickly
    Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:16:04 -0800

    Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti hosted the team's braintrust in Florida last weekend and the theme was how the team can sign impending free-agent QB Joe Flacco as quickly as possible.

    https://twitter.com/mortreport/statu...35492569931776
    This is a very good thing. The upside of this whole situation is that conditions are actually pretty good for a deal to happen quickly. The team has almost no leverage and a ton of incentive to get something done quickly. Flacco obviously wants the deal gone sooner rather than later as well and wants to avoid the tag at all costs.

    At this point the question almost becomes which is the least-worst situation: 1) "overpay" (whatever that means) quickly, have a productive offseason, and face the future cap consequences in 2014 and beyond, or 2) use the tag, do nothing in the offseason, and hope/pray that somehow you can save a few million off the future cap by haggling as hard as possible now.

    It seems mind-numbingly obvious to me that the FO is better served to take option #1. Just give Flacco what he wants now, put a good team around him in 2013, and deal with the future when it comes.




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Ravens | Owner wants Joe Flacco signed quickly
    Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:16:04 -0800

    Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti hosted the team's braintrust in Florida last weekend and the theme was how the team can sign impending free-agent QB Joe Flacco as quickly as possible.

    https://twitter.com/mortreport/statu...35492569931776
    IMO, the two most important to this for the Ravens are expediency and structure. Linta has already stated that Flacco and himself are open to friendly structure, so that leaves expediency. To get this deal done quickly, IMO the right move is to roll over on the $20m per year, and simply make it a LOOOONNNNGGGG contract so as to make that number less cumbersome. 7-8 years, and on the backside of the deal it will seem like a bargain. This should help get it done quickly as Linta can brag about the biggest contract in NFL history, his $20m per year, and by being a friendly structure it necissarily wil have a lot of guaranteed money and good money in the2 sand 3 year payouts.




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    This is a very good thing. The upside of this whole situation is that conditions are actually pretty good for a deal to happen quickly. The team has almost no leverage and a ton of incentive to get something done quickly. Flacco obviously wants the deal gone sooner rather than later as well and wants to avoid the tag at all costs.

    At this point the question almost becomes which is the least-worst situation: 1) "overpay" (whatever that means) quickly, have a productive offseason, and face the future cap consequences in 2014 and beyond, or 2) use the tag, do nothing in the offseason, and hope/pray that somehow you can save a few million off the future cap by haggling as hard as possible now.

    It seems mind-numbingly obvious to me that the FO is better served to take option #1. Just give Flacco what he wants now, put a good team around him in 2013, and deal with the future when it comes.
    Or hope that the cap increases in those years.




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    Re: Ongoing Flacco Contract Negotiations (Merged)

    Just get it done...PLEASE. And not in April...
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    I'm skeptical that this will get done quickly. Steve B said himself during the year end press conference that they won't overreact during this "euphoria". Joe and his agent kind of have the ravens right where they want them.




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