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01-25-2013, 02:19 PM #86Regular 1st Stringer
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01-25-2013, 02:28 PM #87
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Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
You are proving my point. Yes, "backbreaking" interceptions cannot be quantified with stats, you have to look with your EYES, and take the CONTEXT.
I don't put any stock into GW drives. I was using it to disprove this idiocy of "clutch".
I love this argument. I also love the cherry picking of two play. Allow me to cherry pick: If two plays go differently in the playoffs this year, then Joe goes 1-1, and Matt Ryan is heading to the super bowl. These plays don't even have to involve either QB, and yet they would change how "clutch" these QBs are.
What do players do to prepare for a game? Do they sit there and just look at stats, or do they watch game film?
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01-25-2013, 03:33 PM #90
Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
Matt's a good QB, Atlanta's lucky to have him and all the offensive talent with him. I think even if he had our offensive talent he'd still be a good QB. As far as winning games that matter? Joe and it's not even close, despite what some in this thread have said. I've seen most Atlanta fans (on their board) complain more about their defense than Ryan and I suppose that's true as well; those guys gave up the ghost after the Falcons offense put up 24 points to 0 in the first half. At the end of the day though, Ryan had a chance to put it away and instead threw a pick and muffed a snap. Those things can happen to anyone and I'm not condemning him for them but at the same time, Flacco usually does those bone-headed things in the regular season but in the post-season when it's win or go home, the man wins. He puts the team on his back, and we win. It isn't just this post-season that he's done that either.
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01-25-2013, 04:03 PM #91Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
Funny, this discussion is everywhere these days.
They were just talking about it on Sirius NFL Radio. For the record, Jim Miller picks Flacco.
As do most of the Falcon fans on this thread - http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/top...lacco-vs-ryan/.
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01-25-2013, 04:40 PM #92
Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
I think they are both VERY good quarterbacks.
But I see two very similar quarterbacks given two very dissimilar teams and opportunities.
The Falcons took a top pick and went out of their way and justifingly so, to build an above average offense around him. He has two number 1 wideouts and a HOF tightend and a very good runningback. Offensive line, I don't know enough about. And the defense might have suffered due to the talent given to Ryan.
Meanwhile, Joe goes to a team with great defense, but no real playmakers to rival anything the Falcons have had.
It took years for the Ravens to put quality players around Joe, but more importantly, he was handcuffed by his own OC. Removal of the OC has proved, in my mind, what many of us saw (which the media did not). Joe has had to be perfect to succeed. Very difficult in the NFL. Caldwell is now playing to Joe's strengths and helping run the plays to get these receivers open and Joe has the arm to make all the throws.
Defense has bailed Joe out a number of times, but he has also had many game winning drops that have made a huge difference with Joe going one game further almost every post season.
I will stick with Joe, especially since his biggest chains have been removed.
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