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  1. #76
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    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders



    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Would you take someone from here who was also a member of the Baltimore Marching Ravens band?

    HEY T - Wasn't there a poster or two from the old RN 2, now Scout, that won the lottery tics? There weren't many, just
    like only 1 poster on this thread.

    One pal got face value tics from someone in the media he knew and a pal from Nest 1 bought 2 tics from E-Bay for
    a grand each. He got sick down there the night before the game partying and was sick as a dog. He was in the stadium's
    clinic before the game. HIs dad was outside and a Giants fan offered him $2500 for each tic. He though hard and long
    but said no. His son came out and was OK and then went to the game but he could have made $5,000.

    A lot of guys like you went down just for the parties all week. WJZ had a big party hosted by Denise Koch and Marty.

    Fan Man of Nest 1 went w/o any tics. He was just walking along in his Ravens costume and a TV station saw him and
    asked if he wanted to go on a quiz show. The winner got two free tics. He jumped at it. He went vs some dumb chick
    who knew nothing about football but Fan Man answered all the questions and won free tics but the rest of you
    guys weren't so lucky. I couldnt stand being that close to the game and not being able to go in.

    My cousin lives in Tampa and got me a job pushing carts for Aerosmith during the half time show. I would have been on
    the field by the stage and on the sideline before the half but got pneumonia a few days before the game and couldn't
    go.




  2. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by ManfredHanover View Post
    So for all of those doubters out there. Answer this question. The OFFICIAL Ticket exchange service for the NFL is the NFL Ticket Exchange run by Ticketmaster. If the tickets on the PRIME SPORT website did not come from the Ravens allotment, then WHY would the NFL give the tickets to PRIME SPORT to sell rather than the OFFICIAL ticket exchange for the NFL? Inquiring minds want to know!
    I see your point.
    But I think your issue is with the NFL in general not with the Ravens administration.
    Very true, last week there were tons of tickets for sale on stubhub at $2000 - without the teams selected. Why sell to Primetime or brokers when the average joe really wants to go ...




  3. #78

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by ManfredHanover View Post
    So for all of those doubters out there. Answer this question. The OFFICIAL Ticket exchange service for the NFL is the NFL Ticket Exchange run by Ticketmaster. If the tickets on the PRIME SPORT website did not come from the Ravens allotment, then WHY would the NFL give the tickets to PRIME SPORT to sell rather than the OFFICIAL ticket exchange for the NFL? Inquiring minds want to know!
    Grapes must be really sour for you. Sorry but while your questions are valid your frustration is being vented in the wrong direction.




  4. #79
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    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by ManfredHanover View Post
    So for all of those doubters out there. Answer this question. The OFFICIAL Ticket exchange service for the NFL is the NFL Ticket Exchange run by Ticketmaster. If the tickets on the PRIME SPORT website did not come from the Ravens allotment, then WHY would the NFL give the tickets to PRIME SPORT to sell rather than the OFFICIAL ticket exchange for the NFL? Inquiring minds want to know!
    The answer is simple and obvious -- outsourcing.

    Yes, Ticketmaster is the entity that runs the NFL Ticket Exchange but they farm out some stuff just like almost every other company on the planet.

    When I bought my tickets this year, I went through the Ticket Exchange but when I got my confirmation email, it came from Tickets Now. I called the next morning and was told, very frankly, that Ticketmaster will hire other ticket brokers to sell big ticket items. I ran into this same thing when I bought tickets for U2 back in 2009 for a show in Ireland.

    So if you're going to be mad, be mad at the NFL. They got into the secondary market business and this is the result. They are basically reselling their own tickets at the secondary market prices.
    WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and/or supporting factual or anecdotal evidence. All statements and assertions contained herein may be subject to literary devices not limited to: irony, metaphor, allusion and dripping sarcasm.




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    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    I feel zero empathy for the whiny OP... Do you believe men walked on the moon, or are you one of those people who see conspiracies everywhere?

    Great discussion about how tickets are parsed out. Very enlightening. Thank you to those who have offered insight.

    ManfredMunchausen, you are attempting to create a story where none exists. Quit your bitchin'.




  6. #81

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    The Superbowl is not held for the fans of the teams that are participating. It is held as a thank you to the companies that spend 3 million for 30 seconds of advertising. Yes, fans can get tickets through the secondary market if they want to pay through the nose, and a select few fans will win the ticket lottery, but let's not act like $850 is a bargain to watch a sporting event. I would say over half of the people that attend the Superbowl don't even have a real rooting interest. This is why the NFL is reluctant to hold the event in open air cold weather stadiums. This is why you have the silly half-time show.




  7. #82
    iggyman555 Guest

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    my coworker has 2 friends that work at cbs, they both got all expense paid trips to the super bowl, only one of them is a football fan




  8. #83
    iggyman555 Guest

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    105.7 says that the ravens released a 2nd batch of tickets to psl holders




  9. #84

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenfever_com View Post
    Would be very interesting to hear if any PSL Holders were selected for SuperBowl Tickets and how much they had to fork over for the "Right" and/or "Privilege" to watch the Ravens play live.

    If you did get tickets at "Face Value" (value means something I guess) how much was it and how many could you purchase?
    A guy who was on my Same Day charter bus to/from Foxboro checked his email at one point on the ride home, and had won 2. A big thrill for him and his 54 "new best buddies," and we got to see what the correspondance & prices looked like.

    I had never won squat from the Ravens as a [4] PSL holder since 2007, despite early payment in full each year for that lottery, and requesting extra home playoff tix the last 2 years. Well blow me down - I won the right to purchase 2 extra endzone corner tix to the Wild Card this year. Which I promptly bought and then sold [to a cop of all people]for a quick $200 profit.

    I knew that was all my luck for the year and probably a few years to come.




  10. #85

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    105.7 says that the ravens released a 2nd batch of tickets to psl holders
    Did they mention how the tickets were being allocated or how notification was being sent?




  11. #86
    iggyman555 Guest

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by pslholder96 View Post
    Did they mention how the tickets were being allocated or how notification was being sent?
    nope




  12. #87

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    nope
    I think it's the same process. Someone on this board already got selected in the second lottery.




  13. #88

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom View Post
    I feel zero empathy for the whiny OP... Do you believe men walked on the moon, or are you one of those people who see conspiracies everywhere?

    Great discussion about how tickets are parsed out. Very enlightening. Thank you to those who have offered insight.

    ManfredMunchausen, you are attempting to create a story where none exists. Quit your bitchin'.
    Transparency is all I ask for. I would think that a loyal customer should get this courtesy.




  14. #89

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Do you also write the MD lottery and complain when you don't win your scratch offs or Powerball?




  15. #90

    Re: Ravens Money Grab - Shafts PSL Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by Liberation View Post
    Do you also write the MD lottery and complain when you don't win your scratch offs or Powerball?
    Look it is not about whether I won or not. It is about the process. With the lottery the rules are clearly available for everyone to see and each player has an equal chance. But if I played the lottery and found out that is was fixed, yes I would complain. Here are the questions I asked the Ravens to answer but did not get a response:

    How many tickets were allocated to the SB Ticket lottery?

    How was the lottery conducted?

    There was a recent post to the website which stated that club seat owners received a higher weighted chance at tickets? What were the respective weights?

    How many winners were there by stadium Section (e.g. Section 524 had 4 winners)?

    The announcement about non-winners of the lottery received a prompt to go the Prime Sports website, and were offered TICKET ONLY packages. Can you explain how Prime Sports received so many tickets not associated with travel?
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    Was the length of time a PSL holder has owned tickets taken into consideration in the drawing?

    Were PSL owners who won tickets in 2001, included in the drawing, if YES, why is was it fair to those to did not get tickets in 2001 to include past winners in the drawing?

    So if it is discovered that the Ravens got 12,500 tickets and used Prime Sports as a surrogate to "scalpe" 5,000 tickets for way above face value and didn't include them in the lottery pool, while you have been a season ticket holder for 17 years and paid over $40k to the Ravens in PSL and season tickets, that wouldn't be an issue to you? Is that the way you treat loyal, fanatic customers? Transparency is all I ask. Last year the Giants and the Pats posted their method as well as how many tickets were in the pool. Why have the Ravens not done that? Do they have something to hide?
    Last edited by ManfredHanover; 01-23-2013 at 11:33 PM.




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