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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition



    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_Carcetti View Post
    Predictably, Redskins fans are whining and moaning about the Ravens for the most part.
    To adapt a quote from Ayn Rands The Fountainhead

    Redskins Fan: "Tell me Mr. Ravens fan, what do you really think of the Redskins? What do you really want to say to me?"
    Ravens Fan: "That I don't think of you"




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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Bleacher Report
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...per-bowl-xlvii

    This dude is actually picking us to win but this line stuck out like a sore thumb:

    Joe Flacco, for most plays of most games, is a below-average quarterback.
    Uhh...what? A lot of people still call Joe an average QB but I didn't think anyone felt he was below average most of the time.




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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Shambla View Post
    Bleacher Report
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...per-bowl-xlvii

    This dude is actually picking us to win but this line stuck out like a sore thumb:



    Uhh...what? A lot of people still call Joe an average QB but I didn't think anyone felt he was below average most of the time.
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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    LA Times guys praises the 'Weird, Wild' Ravens

    http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan...nship-20130121

    "Ray Rice jumped and shouted, "Where's the trophy, where's the trophy? Is it metal or plastic? Where is it?"
    Terrell Suggs finished the parade by pointing down the hall to where the Patriots were trudging inside and hollered, "Tell them to have fun in the Pro Bowl. . . . Arrogant bleeps!"
    Just before reaching their locker-room door, the Ravens passed their No. 1 fan, swimmer Michael Phelps, who was proudly pulling up his shirt and shoving down his jeans and showing everyone his purple underwear.
    "This is the most incredible thing I've ever seen," said a man with 18 Olympic gold medals.
    Memo to those darling San Francisco 49ers: Are you ready for this?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shambla View Post
    Uhh...what? A lot of people still call Joe an average QB but I didn't think anyone felt he was below average most of the time.
    At first glance, I thought that was a slap at Flacco, too. But on re-reading it, I think he is saying that Flacco is "below average" in terms of the QB stats he listed: Comp. %, net yards per attempt, QBR. Which you can't dispute.

    What you can dispute is his analysis. He seems to put the majority of the blame for stalled drives, and missed short passes on Flacco. I would argue that while Flacco can be inconsistent at times, the system Flacco was running most of this year was not the best designed for him or the Ravens offense to maintain long drives (see Greg Cossell's analysis).

    I think he also is flawed when he commends Kaepernick for his 2 big game performances in the playoffs, but nary a mention of Flacco's out-playing and defeating Brady and Manning on the road.

    He does commend Flacco for not turning the ball over and hitting the big plays that bust the games open...which is what Flacco did in Denver, but again, that ignores Flacco's MO during the New England game, which was short to intermediate passes over the middle.

    I would say his analysis is incomplete and faulty...or very selective, at best.




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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    So far,

    PTI: Michael Wilbon has certainly given respect to Joe Flacco. He admitted that he has been very critical of Joe Flacco in the past, but that Joe Flacco said he was Elite and that, while he won't call Flacco elite, he's has stepped up big time.

    Around the Horn: Very complimentary about the Ravens as a whole. Unanimous that they didn't like the high spikes from Brady.

    Mike and Mike in the Morning: High praise for Flacco from Greenberg and Golic. Chris Carter and Tim Hasslebeck continued to be the assholes they've painted themselves to be. Hasslebeck, in particular, screams jealousy and denial, not wanting to admit that he was wrong.

    Kurt Warner: Won't necessarily go into whether or not Joe is elite, but said that Joe will be paid and has earned every penny.
    When I heard Tim Hasslebeck speak on Joe and continue to downplay his performance and fail to acknowledge his consistent performance since our OC change - I was ready to smack the shit out of him.

    I could not be a sports analyst, some of these analysts are just down-right re fucking tarded and closed minded.




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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_Carcetti View Post
    Predictably, Redskins fans are whining and moaning about the Ravens for the most part.

    http://www.extremeskins.com/showthre...and-Why/page12
    http://www.extremeskins.com/showthre...kins-vs-Ravens

    It's all the same B.S.: Smack about the fans being "whiny", claiming that Baltimore is an inferior city and/or has an inferiority complex, the whole "Ravens are the stolen Browns" tripe, calling Ray Lewis a "murderer", etc., etc. A few took issue with the Ravens team colors (Really? Because I find burgandy to be very depressing myself). They seem genuinely shocked that Ravens fans carry a grudge for Jack Kent Cooke trying to block the NFL's return to Baltimore.

    And they seem to love to drone on and on about the Redskins' "history" and their "national fanbase", both of which they claim Baltimore and the Ravens lack. But if we include Colts history (which there is no reason why we shouldn't), I'll take Unitas and Lewis as being more influential legendary players than anyone who has ever wore the Redskins uniform and the '58 Championship and '00 Purple Reign Defense as being better teams and championship games than anything the Redskins have given us.

    All I can say is that it must suck to be irrelevant for most of the past two decades where your greatest accomplishment has been going one-and-done in the playoffs and losing your star QB in the process. If the Ravens win this Super Bowl, the Redskins will have a grand total of one more SB win than us, and none since the Senior Bush administration. Say what you want about the Steelers, but at least they have some history to legitimately brag about, albiet annoyingly. The more Redskins fans insist it's the Ravens fans who have the inferiority complex, the more obvious it is that they are the ones who are suffering.

    Sorry--grew up in Southern MD when the Redskins were the only team in the area, so I have to hear all the time from Redskins fans. Never could stand that team. Baltimore was "my city" where my family grew up and I always identified with everything about it. DC, on the other hand, was the place I would go on class field trips every other year, and I had no interest in rooting for any of its teams.
    It's funny, in the Ravens' first years I would follow the Redskins, complain about their owner, root against them, etc. After SB35 this has been going ever down, and in the past few years I haven't even known when they are playing. It seems that the inferiority complex is now squarely on them.




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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by landspeed View Post
    When I heard Tim Hasslebeck speak on Joe and continue to downplay his performance and fail to acknowledge his consistent performance since our OC change - I was ready to smack the shit out of him.

    I could not be a sports analyst, some of these analysts are just down-right re fucking tarded and do what ESPN tells them to say.
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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    They keep saying RG3 > Flacco. I don't know how a player can be better when he can't even play due to injury.




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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Not sure if it's been brought up, but I was just reading John Clayton's latest 'effort', and in the introduction he writes "...This will be a Super Bowl battle between Colin Kaepernick and Joe Flacco, two of the most unlikely competitors...".

    Yes, because it's unlikely the QB that has played in 3 of the past 5 AFC Championship games would play in the Superbowl... Oh my days, the man is just a moron.
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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_Carcetti View Post
    Predictably, Redskins fans are whining and moaning about the Ravens for the most part.

    http://www.extremeskins.com/showthre...and-Why/page12
    http://www.extremeskins.com/showthre...kins-vs-Ravens

    It's all the same B.S.: Smack about the fans being "whiny", claiming that Baltimore is an inferior city and/or has an inferiority complex, the whole "Ravens are the stolen Browns" tripe, calling Ray Lewis a "murderer", etc., etc. A few took issue with the Ravens team colors (Really? Because I find burgandy to be very depressing myself). They seem genuinely shocked that Ravens fans carry a grudge for Jack Kent Cooke trying to block the NFL's return to Baltimore.

    And they seem to love to drone on and on about the Redskins' "history" and their "national fanbase", both of which they claim Baltimore and the Ravens lack. But if we include Colts history (which there is no reason why we shouldn't), I'll take Unitas and Lewis as being more influential legendary players than anyone who has ever wore the Redskins uniform and the '58 Championship and '00 Purple Reign Defense as being better teams and championship games than anything the Redskins have given us.

    All I can say is that it must suck to be irrelevant for most of the past two decades where your greatest accomplishment has been going one-and-done in the playoffs and losing your star QB in the process. If the Ravens win this Super Bowl, the Redskins will have a grand total of one more SB win than us, and none since the Senior Bush administration. Say what you want about the Steelers, but at least they have some history to legitimately brag about, albiet annoyingly. The more Redskins fans insist it's the Ravens fans who have the inferiority complex, the more obvious it is that they are the ones who are suffering.

    Sorry--grew up in Southern MD when the Redskins were the only team in the area, so I have to hear all the time from Redskins fans. Never could stand that team. Baltimore was "my city" where my family grew up and I always identified with everything about it. DC, on the other hand, was the place I would go on class field trips every other year, and I had no interest in rooting for any of its teams.
    Those threads are a riot.

    I have actually started to root a little for the Redskins because I feel a little sorry for them and can sypathize with where they are. They are the NFL's version of the Orioles. They are a once proud franchise that has been raped by an egomaniac billionaire owner who thought he could treat a real team as his own personal fantasy team. They have had so much mis-management over the past 15 years on the field and in the front office that their seasons consistantly turn into a comedy of errors and their long time fans have nothing to hold onto but glory long since faded. What used to be a great franchise has become such a joke that no worthwile free agent would consider going there because it looks like there is an engrained culture of losing. Like the Orioles, 2012 showed a glimmer of hope with new talent and a chance at the playoffs. I hope RGIII is OK and not ruined by Shanahan because they sold the farm to move up and get him. I think it was a good move unless his career is over.

    I am not jealous of the Redskin's history. The Ravens right now are a model franchise that consistantly makes the playoffs and is about to go to its second Superbowl. Their history is our present.




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    Here's a Browns fan that would take Brandon Weeden over Flacco. No, I am not making this up.

    To be fair, he's getting slammed just as hard by the other Browns fans as he is by the few Ravens fans on the thread (which I am one).

    All things being equal, I would take Weeden over him, that is how little I think of Flacco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somedumbguy View Post
    Those threads are a riot.

    I have actually started to root a little for the Redskins because I feel a little sorry for them and can sypathize with where they are. They are the NFL's version of the Orioles. They are a once proud franchise that has been raped by an egomaniac billionaire owner who thought he could treat a real team as his own personal fantasy team. They have had so much mis-management over the past 15 years on the field and in the front office that their seasons consistantly turn into a comedy of errors and their long time fans have nothing to hold onto but glory long since faded. What used to be a great franchise has become such a joke that no worthwile free agent would consider going there because it looks like there is an engrained culture of losing. Like the Orioles, 2012 showed a glimmer of hope with new talent and a chance at the playoffs. I hope RGIII is OK and not ruined by Shanahan because they sold the farm to move up and get him. I think it was a good move unless his career is over.

    I am not jealous of the Redskin's history. The Ravens right now are a model franchise that consistantly makes the playoffs and is about to go to its second Superbowl. Their history is our present.
    Agree with all.

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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    Here's a Browns fan that would take Brandon Weeden over Flacco. No, I am not making this up.

    To be fair, he's getting slammed just as hard by the other Browns fans as he is by the few Ravens fans on the thread (which I am one).



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    Re: What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    Here's a Browns fan that would take Brandon Weeden over Flacco. No, I am not making this up.

    To be fair, he's getting slammed just as hard by the other Browns fans as he is by the few Ravens fans on the thread (which I am one).



    http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=149&f=1547&t=11201052
    I remember those boards!

    And that is one of the funniest posters I've seen.

    Not only did he say he'd take Weeden over Flacco, but he also said that Eli Manning wasn't a top 10 QB talent.

    And another poster said that Joe was like Kurt Warner, Troy Aikman and Eli..."better than average but not franchise level".
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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